Opponents say [Washington state] voters were persuaded at least partly because the initiative and its boosters exploited deep-seated prejudices and misunderstandings about transgender people to erode their rights.

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    Because biological males are better at sports than biological women and the majority of people including leftists see this as common sense

    Unfortunately mother nature doesn’t actually care about us and doesn’t read our angry emails

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      And that’s why trans women belong in women’s sports. Biological women should play with other biological women. Trans women are literally biologically female. You’re just ignorant of trans medicine.

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      The majority of people also used to think it was common sense that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

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              You used “common sense” as evidence that your view was correct, yet you don’t think showing that common sense has historically been used as a means of oppression is relevant? Ok, sure

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                I didn’t say my view was correct. I explained why I think blue WA voted this way. To most people it IS common sense that men are physically more capable than women on average. Because for one, men hold the world records in every single sport, and by quite a lot.

                Like I said, be mad at mother nature.

                Which group of people most strongly support this ban? Female athletes lmao.

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                  That no longer holds when comparing people actually receiving hrt for a period of time.

                  Be mad at science.

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                    So how do you determine the “period of time” in which the line is drawn?

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        The magnitude of sex differences increases as individuals mature (65). Adolescent and adult males and females show average differences in aerobic capacity, body composition, and strength (61). These are interrelated but will be addressed individually. As children grow and move through puberty, both sexes have increases in body size, although to a greater extent among males, leading to greater male average mass and height (62, 71).

        During puberty, differences in body composition become apparent, with males having lower average body fat, and higher average muscle mass compared to age matched females (64, 72, 73). This difference in body composition leads to increasing strength and aerobic capacity to a greater extent among males than females (64, 74). Due to a greater proportion of lean mass to total body mass, males on average are able to produce greater force for their body size (75–77).

        This can lead to advantages in sports where strength and power are valued (56, 78).

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          And that’s why trans women, as biological females, belong in women’s sports. Only a raging dumbass thinks trans women are biologically male.

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          I do know that reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, otherwise you wouldn’t hold the views that you do, but do keep reading, and then read the sentence you quoted, and then keep reading, and follow that loop for a while.

          I believe in you, champ.

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            I hate the way you engage with people here. I think you are just looking for an argument and you know the things you are saying are obvious bullshit. You like to call people bigots but you’re the only person here acting like one.

            See, I called you a person even though I disagreed with you.

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              I hate the way you engage with people here.

              I hate that transphobia is so ingrained in you people’s brains that even dems have to cater to you fucks.

              I think you are just looking for an argument and you know the things you are saying are obvious bullshit. You like to call people bigots but you’re the only person here acting like one.

              My view is backed by science, yours is backed by… bigots jerking themselves off.

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                Good thing that my country’s conservative party is more left wing than your dems, and the US isn’t the center of the world.

                Where I live this conversation is considered about as interesting as arguing about the colour of the sky.

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            Reading comprehension? Like noticing that I’m not even the same person you’re replying to?

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                Yeah look I’m sorry but there’s not a biologist on earth who would agree with this. Saying that biological males don’t have a physiological advantage in strength based sports is just pure delusion.

                Trans people deserve all the same rights and respect as anyone else, and I will fight for that. But if you’re going to say “red is blue and blue is red and science agrees with me” then no, I’m not going to indulge in that delusion