Opponents say [Washington state] voters were persuaded at least partly because the initiative and its boosters exploited deep-seated prejudices and misunderstandings about transgender people to erode their rights.

  • AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
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    I know people think we seperate men and women’s sports out of safety for women, but historically the reason was they just didn’t want women doing things (shocker i know). People just started thinking it was for “female safety”.

    In their minds tho, it’s a man playing with women, which is a legitimate concern to them. Even people who think positively about trans people will cite that as their concern, just like you have.

    Kind of insane thinking that not wanting to date a trans person makes you transphobic. Thats like getting upset a former slave owner doesn’t think positively about black people after slavery ended. Expecting people to suddenly wake up and feel differently about something is not a successful strategy.

    People dont want to hear this because to flip sides quick, in THEIR minds, anything less than full trans support means you are actively calling for a trans genocide. And nothing can change THEIR minds either. Politicians love this. We will be stuck in an eternal tug of war where they will never have to address other issues and this one will never be resolved.

    IMO the solution for now, which isnt fair to the trans community, would be that if you are trans then you give up competitive school sports. Intramural, YMCA, bar league, etc etc are still fine. You can still play, just not in competitive high school or college sports. And that would be a sacrifice each and every trans person would make.

    Because the right celebrates they finally kept “those pesky trans kids” out of their sacred sports… and then what? Do you think they would want trans kids out of school altogether? Slippery slope fallacy style? I dont think they would get nearly as much support for that as they currently have for the sports topic.

    Racism still exists but its gotten much better after the racists started dying off and younger kids saw skin color was not a reason to hate people. The same will happen with trans people. Right now its “weird” or “scary” for some people, but their kids will be a bit more open to it. Theres no way to speed this up. Sometimes we have to endure the circumstances of our time.

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      Dude separation of men and women’s events goes back to ancient Greece. The first olympics thousands of years ago was segregated by sex. Maybe Christo-fascists framed it that way but honestly it’s always been because pound for pound a woman just doesn’t compete with a man and it’s inherently not fair.

      And yes seriously, I didn’t want to have a relationship with a trans person and multiple people labeled me as a transphobe over it which is totally not the case. I was friends with her before and after she transitioned and it was… weird for me and something I didn’t want. That to me was particularly insane, like, what more do you want from me?

      I’m glad you at least have a sane and middle of the road thinking, and can see that there are at least levels to support.