Opponents say [Washington state] voters were persuaded at least partly because the initiative and its boosters exploited deep-seated prejudices and misunderstandings about transgender people to erode their rights.

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    1 day ago

    This would hold some validity in contact sports, much less so in all the other sports. I wouldn’t be concerned about my kid’s welfare in a swimming competition, for instance.

    But that requires nuance.

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      24 hours ago

      No, I wouldn’t be concerned about my kids welfare in something like swimming. Basically any sport you are essentially competing against yourself: golf, track, diving, etc.

      I also don’t believe there are many contact girl sports so I’m not sure it even matters that much. Basketball maybe?

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        19 hours ago

        Then what exactly is the point of your post? The only things you mention are wrestling, size and muscle difference between boys (and therefore transitioning girls who aren’t taking hormones) and girls, wrestling, and weight classes (which are typically used in contact sports). Only one of those has factors that aren’t solely issues with contact sports, but the tone of your post implies physical risk, and size/weight would only matter in that context in contact sports, too.

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          14 hours ago

          I’m am not for laws like this first and foremost. I am just trying to point out why people would vote for something like this. My point is there is a perceived advantage for men transitioning to female. And apparently, post puberty there is some scientific data to back this up. I am not saying it is true. I am saying there is some data. And I think the only legitimate argument is that because of some of these perceived physical advantages, anything where the safety of the participants comes into question is a basis for separation. Any non-contact sport should just be allowed. Some cis girls are going to be genetically superior than other cis curls. And the same goes for transgender girls. There is always going to be someone bigger, better, stronger regardless of anything else. I don’t live in that state, I do not have teenage girls, so I am not arguing one side or the other.

          If I did have teenage girls, as I said in a previous statement, I’d be like fuck it, let everyone compete. If someone is better than you, and there will always be someone better, work harder, train harder.

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        20 hours ago

        Isn’t it against the rules to touch other players? I wouldn’t have thought basketball was contact.

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          20 hours ago

          Have you ever played basketball? It’s “supposed” to be non-contact I agree but depending on the position can be brutal.