shout out to the lemmy developers for not making us be stuck on the other site
shout out to mastodon devs for making us have a better life than on Twitter
shout out to the pixelfed devs for allowing a actual photography platform to exist
shout out to the peertube devs for helping us not be stuck on youtube until the end of time
ETA: Shout out to the server operators who make the stuff be done
People are upset when the find out the Lemmy lead devs are like straight up authoritarian communists.
Mostly Third-Way-Reddit-liberal refugees who don’t realize they’re not progressive just because Fox News calls thier party “radical socialist leftists” constantly, these are the same people screeching that America only votes for leftists for Senate some places because there wasn’t another choice and that what b the country really wanted was moderate Dems.
Also the Piefed devs; didn’t they get caught hardcoding a block list into Piefed or something? I know there was a lemmy front end that did that (Tesseract; I made the list yay!) but not long after that Piefed got caught doing something similar but I don’t recall exactly what it was; all I remember was that I decided I no longer trust Piefed and I won’t use it. Shit I’ll try and search it and see if I can come up with a better answer
That particular part of the PieFed controversy was disproven, yet continually shared as misinformation nonetheless.
All of that kind of stuff is opt-in by the instance admins, nowhere close to hard-coded. Unlike the Tesseract situation. Also, Lemmy v1.0 will embedd a veto ability such that communities not acknowledged by Lemmy.ml will not be suggested to new instances - though this is opt-out as it can be configured from within the code, so also not hard-coded (though as opt-out rather than opt-in, is much closer to it).
There are plenty of reasons to not use PieFed, which is quite opinionated software (though Lemmy likewise is somewhat opinionated also, yet on the spectrum perhaps less so overall), but hard-coded blocklists is not one of them. Like Lemmy where people rail against the tankie devs, people just have a hate-on for the PieFed antifa dev, and like to smear the software with unwarranted accusations (weirdly instead of actually valid ones, which do exist, but perhaps those resonate less well somehow?).
Piefed dev for involved in a disagreement about something, made a post explaining how correct they were, and deleted responses from the b other parties involved.
I don’t remember the details but it’s not constructive to a healthy community.
Rimu made a platform to be as hostile as possible those who don’t fit his image and bans anyone who questions it. But since he’s not the Lemmy devs people here fawn over him as he is worse than anything the lemmy devs have done.
so is MBin or Pylova safe from this controversy
Mbin was looking for more devs but they’re into generative AI so you may consider that.
Yes.
Pylova is a mostly pointless reactionary fork that came out of some drama perpetuated by a bunch of crybullies.
So it’s cringe, but not necessarily controversial. But also doesn’t really contribute anything of value.
Actually I think it predated a good amount of that. Iirc PyLova was started much earlier than most people realize, stemming out of a frustration from wanting to contribute to the project but then Mia’s contributions were reportedly taken by the main PieFed dev without seemingly proper acknowledgement. And then yes the PieFed drama caused additional attention to be paid to PyLova than previously (particularly in the earlier stages of the fork - surely that’s a huge learning curve).
PyLova hasn’t done a whole awful lot yet in some respects, but especially some of the more recent inclusions may be absolute game-changers moving forward, especially the ability to support user shareable blocklists. That should go a long way towards retaining people coming here from Reddit who would otherwise flee this toxic shithole (well, some major parts of the Threadiverse are that way at least - certain highly notable politics communities in particular spring to mind, though after blocking this place can become much more chill! even if noticeably quieter…:-P). And PyLova un-does a lot of the minor annoyances that the main PieFed dev did not feel fit into his vision - e.g. a user can choose to display both upvotes and downvotes side by side, just like in Lemmy.
Meanwhile, PieFed is off chasing better compatibility with Mastodon. Some people want that, so it is a laudable goal, but then PyLova is focusing on improving the existing experience here within the Threadiverse, which also seems laudable to me?
However it got started, it is contributing to improving things, as software forks often do - that ability is part of what makes FLOSS so great!!
Thank for the complete feedback. Pylova has interesting features. :)
It made me curious and i want to give a try.
Is Pylova dev team is interested in Mastodon & Mobilizon support ? I need those two bridge so we can connect to the whole fediverse. :)
How many Rimuminbi do you get paid to write this?
PyLova has many features PieFed doesn’t, to the point PieFed is having to copy them poorly such as allowing more than one image in a post.
You’re only saying that because you’re a butthurt .social mod who got banned from every leftist instance. Now that’s cringe.
See what I mean? Look how fast they show up to push these wacky narratives and call people paid shills.
Lmao, another case-in-point: a quokk.au admin below is unironically calling the PieFed dev an “authoritarian liberal”. These are deeply unserious people.
Before I knew they were the piefed admin I had Rimu tagged as “psychotic hatred of leftists, extreme neoliberal” so yeah that seems like a fair label.
If you’re as unhinged as the rest of the FAF losers, sure.
Keep it respectful please.
So “losers” is “disrepectful” and “psychotic hatred of leftists, extreme neoliberal” is “respectful”?
Just making sure.
Lol there it is!
Oh look, and there it is!
A piefed.nullspace.lol admin and PieFed support worker has come along to call people “crybullies” and “deeply unserious”. Your DARVO isn’t going to work.
Also no, I don’t literally think you get paid in a currency I made up on the spot, but I do think you play defence for your side and are biased as fuck to the point you spread literal misinformation about a feature rich fork.
And you’re right things such as trying to enforce vote limits on users without consulting people, trying to hide meme communities (196) via hard code is surely a libertarian move and not the one sided actions of a wannabe dictator.
That’s rich considering how often people who defend PyLova point out how there is hard coded blocks in PieFed… yet can never really seem to point out exactly what is hard coded (in a very ”I’m only asking questions” way). Spoiler alert: Those blocks doesn’t exist. There are some filters, and I don’t agree with all of them, so I simply turn them off. There’s also the default instance and domain blocklist, which is also very easy to remove.
See? This is a straight up lie, i.e. misinformation. That makes it very clear that you’re arguing in bad faith. Or you have no idea what ”hard code” is and just using it to add an emotional emphasis to your point.
Want to try that one again champ?
https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/search/branch/v1.3.x?path=&q=196&mode=exact
Yeah, this is exactly what I’m talking about. You present some “evidence“ that you claim is from a hard coded block, but that is a lie. The code in question is an ignore list for newly loaded communities - it does nothing to prevent anyone from joining that community.
This is more related to the aversion of meme and shitpost communities, which I don’t agree with but again there is nothing that prevents a operator from adding them (you literally just subscribe to the community, lol).
Not to mention that you apparently had to reference 10 month old release because it’s it there in the current release.
I don’t think you know what DARVO means…
“Feature-rich” LMAO
Again, for those reading, this group of people says all of this without a drop of irony. They really are like this.
As someone who uses both, they both have their place. I still use Lemmy from time to time too.
Piefed is fine too. The drama there is a nothing-burger. The tankies are just pissed off that Piefed has better moderation so they can’t troll Piefed servers the way they would like to
Your choice of admin team is much more important than which software platform you use, especially if you use a third-party app like Voyager.
Third party apps can take advantage of the software platform however. I’ve been testing the PyLova app and it’s got lots of stuff you can’t do in the Lemmy based apps.
Fortunately, piefed’s controversial feature was a checkbox in the settings that an admin can easily toggle on/off, unlike Tesseract that had a hidden hardcoded list. And as you are probably aware, our .zip admin gives us users the autonomy to block stuff ourselves, so that wasn’t really that big of an issue.
PieFed only adds those checkboxes (multiple times now) after huge complaints from users.
The dev is an authoritarian liberal who thinks the best way to run the Fediverse is their way and everyone must accept that.
Oh so same as every other instance.
Piefed is fine. Otherwise, PyLova is a fork by a different dev team.
It’s not a secret and it’s not hardcoded.
https://join.piefed.social/2026/08/13/what-piefed-blocks-out-of-the-box-and-how-to-unblock-it/
I mean technically not hard coded, but when it’s the default it becomes the standard. Of course the biggest issue is it’s only viable to admins not the users so
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Just as with literally all federated social media, users are encouraged to find an instance that matches their values and preferred admin involvement, or to spin up their own instances.
Of course users will not have complete control of content moderation on their instance, that is literally impossible on so many levels. If you want complete control, create your own instance. Even then, it’s not complete control because you can not force other instances to federate with you.
If there is anybody capable of configuring a non-default blocklist, it is the type of people that choose to host their own fediverse instance.
Lemmy devs aren’t communists, they’re state capitalists. The difference is they support the state, and Karl Marx said it’s not communism if there’s a state.
Piefed didn’t hardcode a blocklist, that was a hoax. There’s an auto-federation tool that only admins can use, and it has optional limits on what communities it auto-imports. People took screenshots of that code and lied that it was a blocklist.
Marx specifically referenced a state in lower-stage communism, which got clarified by later theorists as the socialist stage as transitional between capitalism and communism.
Lemmy devs are Marxist Leninist (State Socialist). And Marx did write a out a transition phase. Only idealists think you can “press the communism” button without removing the class contradictions that gave rise to a state in the first place.
Piefed has a social credit system
They pressed the communism button in Catalonia and it worked great. Only problem is it was the middle of the Spanish Civil War, and they got betrayed by their allies.
Anarchist communism has 65,000 years of proven success. Vanguard socialism hasn’t worked once. Russia failed, it’s capitalist. China is failing, it’s capitalist. North Korea is failing, it’s feudalist. Those failures aren’t because they got couped by the CIA or conquered in a war, these are internal flaws to the political system of state “socialism”. The idea that you can slowly reform an authoritarian state into communism was always a fantasy, it never happened once.
Anyway, Piefed has karma. Like Reddit. It’s just karma. If you wanna call karma a social credit system, go ahead, but it does seem disingenuous to not explain what you mean by it.
As a piefed admin, I see a little red warning sign next to Sxan, the thorn person. Because they have low karma. When I see it, I chortle and then read what innocuous comment with a thorn has got people downvoting this time. It’s just a warning that they have low karma, it doesn’t do anything.
I’m pretty sure that was Carl Marks.
Karl Marx understood the difference between communism and communists.