• rem26_art@fedia.io
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    The city’s enforcement data from 2021-25 shows 129 scooters seized, 74 impounded, 53 vendor warnings, 13 vendor citations, 3,016 rider warnings, 51 rider citations, five guns seized and eight arrests. No deaths were reflected in the city’s data. Meanwhile, Houston last year recorded its deadliest year on record for vehicle drivers, passengers and pedestrians, with 345 people killed on Houston-area streets, a record high after two years of declines.

    over 300 people died last year because of car accidents vs 0 from e-bikes and scooters in the past 4 years and you’re gonna put a curfew on the e-bikes???

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      Hey, having to avoid these pesky e-bikes on the public road without braking is very dangerous! /s

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      What were the scooters seized for though? For being scooters in use at night? For riding on sidewalks? If they are making it illegal to use them at night at all, it stands to reason they have been harassing them otherwise. Seizing, aka stealing 129 scooters is bullshit, the police should not be in the business of neither raising money through fines and fees nor seizing property.

      Seriously, police should not get money they raise, the city shouldn’t get it either, that’s the only way this tax farming with the police ends. Fines should only be used to enforce the law, and it shouldn’t be a go to method for that either.

      The supposedly progressive city of houston is paying for a bunch of thugs that tax farm the poor and seize their often only means of transportation, based on often bad faith enforcements and laws.

      For Safety reasons? GTFO, Houston needs new leaders as much as the democrats need new leaders anywhere, no wonder we are losing everywhere, even in the places we are winning we are losing because the enemy owns OUR party.

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        “One death is too many!”

        The second death:
        “Fuckit. Whatever. It’s hopeless.”

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        I don’t think criminals using scooters is a legitimate reason to ban scooters. Criminals use cars even more, they are much more effective for crimes. That can’t be the real reason. What is the real reason? Just they want to pick on them? Maybe the car drivers hate them all like they do bicyclists in many cities, fume of them jamming them up, not having to follow the same traffic laws. That is it I bet. This is a bad faith persecution of laws against car owners road rage targets.

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          I don’t agree with the ban, but you’re a bit naive in your thinking on how easy crimes can be in a crowded city when you’re able to buy something for $600 with no registration, plates, brand identity, or colors, that can go 30mph silently while being no wider than your own shoulders at its thickest part, that can be easily stashed, brought indoors, thrown over a fence, etc. it’s currently the perfect urban crime vehicle unless you’re trying to steal something that won’t fit in a backpack.

          Rob a place from a car and security cam and witness see a “red Honda Civic, plate number 123-3210” or “he went that way on a scooter”

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            I mean you can do the same thing with a bike, or on foot. How are scooters furthering an epidemic of crime? I just don’t see it being a legitimate complaint, although I don’t doubt they cherry pick a few crimes that have happened off of them, but with that same logic they could ban any form of transport. I mean think about being on foot. They have no registration (yet,) they can move in and out of streets and buildings, are virtually untraceable, can go from 0 to 20 mph in seconds.

            With the likely same logic they used for this ban we could ban that foot traffic I bet. Or bikes. If there was a real concern about safety and crime they could regulate that part of it and not have a blanket ban all night that makes this form of transport impossible for many people. A safe-ish way for someone that had some drinks at the bar to get home without ruining their life, or the guy to get to work without having a vehicle, etc.

            This Mayor Hates Freedom, and needs to be replaced. Maybe he’s afraid of the dark.

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              Ok. Be on foot. How far away from home or public transport you going? You faster running than a cop or someone else you pissed off? How far are you getting on foot?

              Also, bikes are bigger, easier to identify, accelerate slower, and speaking as someone who road bikes, getting to 30mph is a hell of a lot of work on a flat ground. Let alone a hill.

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                So you are contending an epidemic of scooter crime justifies this ban to a degree? I am contending these laws are in bad faith with flawed logic and their stated reasons are ad hoc, as they can’t be honest about their real reasons because they would look like assholes, which they are.