• xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    I didn’t lose shit. I’m not a rah-rah DNC supporter and I didn’t have shit to do with all the brain dead decisions by the DNC that helped get us to this point. You don’t know me and you can fuck right off with that noise.

    Once we have a choice between center right, status quo candidate and far right, authoritarian, racist, rapist, felonious, pedophile, the choice is clear to anyone who isn’t a toddler throwing a tantrum. I hate that the DNC refused to take a moral stand against Palestinean genocide but I’d bet everything I own that there would be more Palestineans alive today under President Harris. Do you think we are better off now that one of our few unequivically anti genocide representatives is being threatend with deportation?

    The world is a terrible messy moral minefield and the US political system is absolute shit but reasonable, responsible adults accept reality and try to navigate towards the best possible outcomes. Stop acting like a sullen child. I hope you don’t live in a swing state.

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      23 hours ago

      There was one path to stopping Trump when voters made it impeccably clear that they wouldn’t vote for a pro-genocide candidate in the primaries.

      choice is clear to anyone who isn’t a toddler throwing a tantrum.

      You donʻt get to dictate how voters behave. No politician or campaign or commenter gets to decide this. You not understanding how voters behave, or not approving of their behavior has no fucking bearing whatsoever. There is no pathway to Democrats winning in 2024 other than for the candidate to oppose the genocide. You having contempt for voters because you soft-supported a genocide doesnʻt change that.

      I’d bet everything I own that there would be more Palestineans alive today under President Harris.

      THE GENOCIDE LITERALLY HAPPENED UNDER BIDEN AND FUCKING HARRIS!!! THIS ISN’T A FUCKING THOUGHT EXPERIMENT!!! ITS WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED!!!

      Where and when do I get to take possession of everything you own?

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        22 hours ago

        There was one path to stopping Trump when voters made it impeccably clear that they wouldn’t vote for a pro-genocide candidate in the primaries.

        And there was one path to stopping Trump once it was clear that the only opposition party was too dumb or corrupt to run an anti genocide candidate.

        You donʻt get to dictate how voters behave. No politician or campaign or commenter gets to decide this.

        True. I never claimed otherwise. You also don’t get to change the way elections or math or reality work just by yelling at straw men on the internet. But here we are.

        You not understanding how voters behave, or not approving of their behavior has no fucking bearing whatsoever.

        I can understand how people behave and still get trolled into an argument when one if them says something wildly delusional. My approval doesn’t matter yet you chose to rant and rail at me.🤷🏾

        You having contempt for voters because you soft-supported a genocide doesnʻt change that.

        Yeah. So we got presented with a real life trolley problem where we can choose between slow moving genocide that we have some hope of slowing or stopping or turbo ultra bullet train genocide with a chance of extra foreign and domestic genocide on the side. As much as I hate being called a “soft supporter” of genocide, I fail to see how inaction, leading to an inevitable turbo genocide, is somehow the moral high ground.

        I’d bet everything I own that there would be more Palestineans alive today under President Harris. THE GENOCIDE LITERALLY HAPPENED UNDER BIDEN AND FUCKING HARRIS!!! THIS ISN’T A FUCKING THOUGHT EXPERIMENT!!! ITS WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED!!! Where and when do I get to take possession of everything you own?

        Can you read? Are there more Palestinians alive today than there would be in a hypothetical Harris administration? I never claimed that there was no genocide under Biden or that it would magically disappear under Harris. And my claim was absolutely a thought experiment since it is comparing our present timeline with an unknowable hypothetical parallel timeline. But my bad, obviously proposing a thought experiment to this audience was a fool’s errand.