A new report states that former Rep. Eric Swalwell and Katie Miller had a fling while she was a 22-year-old intern. Swalwell recently resigned from Congress amid sexual abuse claims, which he denies, and Katie is now married to Stephen Miller, the controversial deputy chief of staff to President Donald Trump
  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
    13·
    1 day ago

    True, but what’s the difference between that and things like Weinstein? Older man using his position to manipulate younger job hungry women trying to work their way up.

    • foodandart@lemmy.zip
      2·
      7 hours ago

      Unless the woman in question says they were taken advantage of or approached and pressured into sex… it’s kind of condescending to claim abuse.

      As a former young woman, I certainly played the field and fucked a lot of older men… and it was 100% consentual and if I’m gonna be honest about it… those older men had mad skills.

    • Cypher@aussie.zone
      3·
      24 hours ago

      Is it manipulation if they both know the deal or is it a transaction that’s frowned upon?

      • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world
        5·
        19 hours ago

        “The deal” is the worker fucks the boss or the worker’s career gets destroyed so yeah that’s a big old frowny face

        • Cypher@aussie.zone
          4·
          19 hours ago

          There’s an implicit assumption there about who initiated which won’t always be the case

          • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
            3·
            11 hours ago

            The problems I see in it are that there is pressure on every decision someone makes. Whether the relationship starts as a mutual interest the ability to step outside the situation has friction that shouldn’t be there for both parties.

            She can say he forced her into the relationship to keep her job, he can take away her job. Doesn’t matter if the sexes are reversed, no one should be having to think, oh I better give him/her a kiss before I leave or I might be homeless soon. Having to do things you no longer want to be doing romantically/sexually because your finances are directly impacted by it.

            I assume it’s why HR departments will usually always prefer anyone in a relationship to work in separate departments if they work for the same company.

          • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world
            5·
            19 hours ago

            Initiation is completely irrelevant, the boss has power over the worker either way and that power imbalance shuts down any possibility of ethical sex. If you are a leader with any kinda character you do not have any sexual activities with your subordinates ever.

            Also, kinda off topic, but initiation is very much in the eye of the beholder sometimes and SAers love to argue the other person initiated, so it’s just a very weak signpost to rely on in these situations (and that’s not even considering intoxication being a factor)