President Donald Trump threatened to veto every piece of legislation put forward during the second half of his administration if Democrats flip control of the House or Senate during next month’s midterm elections.
“Well, I think the Republicans are going to win. But if there was, you call it gridlock, what happens is I veto everything,” Trump told reporters Friday morning while speaking on the South Lawn. “And then the Democrats come and they want to make a deal. So we’ll work it out.”
Historical precedent and polling data suggest Democrats are on the cusp of flipping at least the House next month and possibly the Senate, due to public frustration over the Iran war and high costs of living.
So, they will override his veto
Democrats shouldn’t try to pass any legislation in that situation; it would be enough to do something the Republican Congress hasn’t done these past two years: control the actions of the executive branch.To put a stop to his unilateral excesses, to effectively prosecute corruption, to demand that he comply with the laws and regulations that limit his power, and to make him comply with court orders. That would be a job well done and full-time, without needing to pass any laws.
And in turn, they’ll keep impeaching you.
the great thing about vetos is they can be overridden. thay migjt just push hom over the edge to oblivion
Who cares? At best you’ll get nothing done. That is better than getting bad things done IMO.
And in the next presidential election you can run on Trump getting nothing done in his last years.
And Trump will win again.
The people impacted in the alternative scenario.
So, they will override his veto
That depends on whether the Democrats win every senate seat that’s contested this year. If not, they’ll probably need some fence crossers in the senate to reach the two thirds majority to override the veto.
Aww shucks, guess I’ll vote Republican then to keep the big boy in the white house from having a meltdown. Sike, I am not even murrican, but if I was I would be voting for whatever is most likely to give him an aneurysm.
A very clear statement that he values petty party politics more than leadership of the nation.
The un-patriot president. Anti-citizen one.
His entire presidency has been a very clear statement of his values.
Lack of values more like
His entire life has been, honestly.
His value of raping children?
The first in a long line of vice-ious values, each more heinous than the last.
And not paying workers.
He doesn’t care about politics, he’s just doing whatever he wants and people are actioning on it. It’s as simple as it can be.
Woah. Sorry, I didn’t think he’d be a petty bitch until now. He’s always been a moral leader, but maybe now I might think again.
I find it hilarious that his biggest supporters hurt more than me. I want to help them, but they vote against me.
Just a reminder…the reds outright said during Biden’s term that they would outright block any meaningful legislation for the sole reason to make him look bad. They give absolute ZERO FUCKS about actually making America great again but only about enriching themselves.
Americans should practice their aim more. That orange toad shouldn’t be up and about already 3 times
“And then the [other party] comes and they want to make a deal. So we’ll work it out.”
Uh, yeah. That’s how it usually works.
Why do I get the impression that his idea of “making a deal” involves paying him personally?
Well if you kick a dog 99 times when you walk in the door it’s probably expecting to get kicked the next time
Because it usually does?
*always
vetoing everything would be a vast vast improvement.
I think if Trump vetoes everything, voters might actually not blame Democrats for getting nothing done, so that might actually carry over the anger for two years and help a real blue wave happen. So that might be nice, IF we can minimize establishment Dems fucking shit up and get more progressives in there.
Dems will likely do well, but I don’t think they’ll get 2/3rd majority and republicans for sure aren’t gonna help Dems, they’re too far gone.
Dems will likely do well, but I don’t think they’ll get 2/3rd majority and republicans for sure aren’t gonna help Dems, they’re too far gone.
Every progressive policy that passes the House and Senate but gets vetoed by trump becomes a reason to vote for a Democratic President in 2028. Trump would almost be doing the Democrats a favor if he vetoed everything. Bluedog Democrats in Congress could vote for all kinds of progressive things with the knowledge they won’t pass into law. They’d be able to score all the political points with their constituency without suffering any fallout from their corporate donors. Imagine if, in the next 2 years, Democrats in Congress pass:
- Universal Healthcare
- Federal Minimum wage increase
- Cost ceilings on residential electric bills
- Slashed defense budget
- Increase in Social Security trust fund
- Resolution ending military actions
- Epstein file transparency laws
All of these trump would veto, of course, but that leaves the GOP significantly worse off in the next election.
That seems to be dependent on a dramatic misconception of how American politics works.
It seems that only a very small demographic are observing this type of information, and I presume they’re all dem voters anyway.
Everyone will ignore all of this and vote Republican because of the price of eggs or something.
The type to do that are also the type to blame the sitting president and will vote against the president’s party.
Basically if eggs are expensive come 2028 those people will blame the president and therefore the Republicans
With a simple majority they could decide to do away with the filibuster
that’s not the problem if dipshit vetoes everything… it would be the lack of votes in both chambers needed to override one.
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And idiotic low-info voters (many of them are self-styled “independents”, LOL) will then blame the Democrats for not doing enough and send in Republicans again.
They’re not low info voters. They’re generally just closeted far right whingers.
Who will wholeheartedly accept progressive policies… unless you tell them that this is what leftists want…
That Venn diagram is almost a circle
That’s definitely a high likelihood, but there’s also a high likelihood that republicans outright refuse to seat Dems elected, Trump refuses to leave and claims he won a third term (deserves one), and the courts will let it all happen, resulting in arrests of Dems and the loss of the democratic system as we know it. That means a power vacuum will emerge inevitably, whatever the end result of this coup, and power vacuums almost always end up with a more authoritarian leader in place and less democracy.
That’s just unrealistic. In what world would the courts strike down Trump’s attempts to end birthright citizenship, but give him an unconstitutional 3rd term?
It makes no sense looking at the court’s record. They do pretty often disagree with Trump and it pisses him off
If this or anything close to it happens, the only recourse is violence.
That’s the power vacuum part. The emerging authoritarian is whoever manages to put down the violence typically
There’s no real economic incentive for opposition.
It’s not the promise of profits that usually takes it there, it’s typically hunger, desperation, and giving up on waiting for the system to step in and do something to change what’s obviously led to the stagnant and corrosive economic system that’s leading many to that hunger and desperation.
democrats would have to win 20 seats currently held by Republicans as well as hold all their current seats. mathematically, this is possible, there are currently 22 Republican seats contested this election. current polling, however, shows the likely outcome is democrats get +3 seats.
sweep the senate races–all of them, including ones that are basically ‘gimmies’ for magats…
and then you’d also need to have the flaky ones with a (d) by their names on your side, and that is not even remotely a ‘sure thing’.
that’s just for the senate super-majority…
with projections saying a very slim majority being possible–perhaps even ‘probable’… democrats would have to over-perform in the house races like never before seen to get up to that two-thirds advantage there.
and all that has to be accomplished despite all the shit magats are doing to undermine the vote.
So, they will override his veto
I will be giddy if Dems win enough seats to have the 2/3 of both house and senate it takes to do so.
If that happens and sticks (and he is removed from the presidency), come back to this comment and I will send you $1,000. No joke.
I’m not worried. But I promise I will honour this.
Sounds like a deal! 🙂
There’s a negative chance of this happening. So most likely you owe him 1,000. I don’t know how that’s possible but I’m certain of it.
Dems would have to win all but two of the thirty-three 2026 Senate races to reach 67 votes (including independents). I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Assuming no Republicans cross the aisle. That’s a fairly reasonable assumption today because the Republican party has been purged of anyone who would be willing to cross Trump.
But I suspect that assumption might not remain so valid if we were to see the kind of blue tsunami it would take to get anywhere near 2/3 of the Senate. Even if you only had 64 seats instead of 67, that still means almost every state went blue, including most of the deep red ones. Any politician with basic survival instincts is going to recognize that tying themselves to the lame duck president that has practically destroyed their party is not going to be a good long term strategy.
It’s not much more plausible a scenario than one where Dems win a full supermajority, but if it were to happen, I would be shocked if every single Republican chose to go down with the ship.
54 seats is the current upper bound of projections for the Democrats in the Senate, let alone 67. Even the moderately Republican-favoring Senate races of South Carolina, Florida, and Nebraska additionally all going blue—currently unlikely—would only take it to 57.
Perhaps enough to prevent a filibuster on contentious issues with enough bipartisan support, but not enough to overturn a veto in most cases.
you also need the super-majority in the house for veto overrides.
it’s actually ‘easier’ to impeach and convict a president than it is to override one of their vetoes.
Right, I wasn’t saying this was a realistic scenario. Just saying that the minimum number of seats they would have to have is not necessarily the same as the number of votes.
all of the senators are so old that I bet a lot of them don’t give a shit about long term strategy
Being older than dirt doesn’t seem to stop them from trying to get reelected.
They get a 2/3 majority but it depends on John Fetterman. A finger on the monkey’s paw curls …
my bet is that democrats pick up +3 seats and fetterman decides to either caucus with the Republicans or at minimum threaten to spoil every vote.
There aren’t even enough open seats for them to win that many.
