you’re ignoring pretty much all of what I already made my best effort to communicate and this doesn’t feel productive or fun.

I literally addressed every point you made; meanwhile you ignore everything I said and merely go on the attack, and you accuse me of arguing in bad faith?

Literally everyone who has responded to you has told you that you clearly misread the original comment, and you refuse to concede that maybe you were mistaken from the start?

I don’t know why you were expecting this to be “fun” though, did you think we’re here to entertain you?

If you’re going to rehash the original comment, maybe quote the whole thing instead of just the lines that, out of context, support the point you want to make.

I quoted the entire comment. You read it wrong from the start and you won’t just admit that.

I’m here for a conversation, but you’re treating it more like a contest

Am I? I don’t think I am, but you’re the one framing it as “forfeit” so apparently you’re viewing it that way…

Calling community a privilege “is… a take…”

It is a privilege. Not everyone has that. If you can’t even grasp that other people’s lived realities may be different from your own, then you have as little empathy as a republican.

Fuck your fixation on identity too,

I’m not fixated on identity, you’re just making assumptions about the other commenter and I called you out on it.

you have no idea who I am or where I’m coming from or what life is like for the constructs you prop up so glibly to make your point

I never claimed to know anything about you other than what you’ve volunteered. I’m not the one making assumptions about you.

Also, what do you mean by “constructs”? I asked you if you’re against various kinds of vulnerable minorities leaving the country if they can, or if it’s only because you’re assuming details about the other commenter that you’re so against them leaving.

While you’re dodging the question, and referring to those minorities as “constructs,” you accuse me of “propping them up” and claim I don’t know what life is like for them? You seem to be the one devoid of empathy here.

Community is absolutely available to every one of those people and exactly how they survive those environments.

You don’t know what life is like for queer people living in right-wing areas, and it shows.

guarantee I have a much closer relationship with the human beings behind the shallow strawmen you present here

What fucking strawman am I presenting? You have a close relationship with the people in your community, sure, I never denied that. But where you err is in assuming every town in america is exactly the same as yours and trying to generalize your experience to encompass everyone else whom you don’t even know. That is lacking empathy.

than you do and that the kind of “support” you’re offering would piss them off.

First of all, you don’t know a thing about me or the support I offer or to whom. Second of all, you’re talking about “them” as if “they” are some a abstract category, that happen to also be a monolith whom you can personally speak for. That’s only more evidence that you lack empathy, and you’re the one using “them” as a prop.

All I asked you is if you would feel the same way about someone leaving the country if you knew they were a vulnerable minority (which, by the way, you still haven’t answered), and how you expect people who are vulnerable minorities to build solidarity when they’re isolated in communities that don’t support them (which again, you refuse to address and simply assert that it isn’t a real problem and I somehow just made it up?).

Community is about shared purpose and meeting needs, not performative politics.

So being queer in a right-wing area where everyone wants you dead is “performative politics” to you?

In this entire thread, you’re the only one being performative. All I’ve said is to have some freaking empathy for others, and you refuse to understand or even acknowledge that some people’s circumstances could differ from your own.

And also, I might add, you tend to assume that whoever you’re arguing with is some caricature of some privileged, out-of-touch, ignoramus, without ever inquiring about the details of who they actually are. Makes me strongly feel this might be projection on your part.

If you want to see what that’s like, try leaving home without your wallet for a while.

I’ve been homeless, jackass. Don’t preach to me about what it’s like to struggle.

Not sure why you’re making this about me, though. I sure as hell wasn’t making this about me. I simply came to bat for the commenter you initially replied to, because I saw that you were treating them unfairly. Everyone else here sees it too. Other than that, I’ve got no horse in this race.

You know though, at first I thought you were serious and could actually be reasoned with, or might be worth the time. But now I see you’re just a troll. So I’m done wasting my time on you.