Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) has earned praise for her response to a question on trans rights during a town hall hosted by the progressive campus group More Perfect University.
At the organization’s Students vs. Billionaires town hall in Maine on Thursday, a trans student from the University of Southern Maine asked for Ocasio-Cortez’s response to the fact that “a lot of trans people in America feel that we have been abandoned by the Democratic Party, that we are a losing issue, that it’s not worth defending us.”
The woman was referring to the fact that many trans advocates feel some Democrats have missed the mark on trans issues, or in some cases have actively made decisions that hurt the trans community in an attempt to defend themselves against Republican attacks. Since the 2024 election, Democrats have disagreed on the effect of the GOP’s anti-trans ads, with some suggesting the need to throw trans people under the bus in order to win future elections.
Without hesitation, Ocasio-Cortez responded, “They’re wrong.”
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I don’t want them “defending trans rights” though.
I want them enforcing the protection of trans rights through legislative action and enforcement of those laws.
“Defending trans rights” is when Republicans go on the offensive about transgender issues so we have to go from being on the offensive on issues like affordability, healthcare and a strong working class to “defending” trans rights. Look at the pamphlets in Texas, they’re no longer talking about gas and grocery prices in Texas, it’s all about who sent the pamphlets.
I was hoping it was going to be a “fuck you”.
I don’t think most democrats have an issue with defending trans rights. The issue is instead of dealing with issues that affect the majority, they only deal with issues that affect the minority. Worry about people not getting killed and abducted to concentration camps at the border. Then maybe we can talk about trans rights.
nobody told you to fuck off in 10 hours so i’m a bit disappointed, and also
fuck off
…"The focus is strategic… It’s not just about trans girls in sports; it’s about all girls in education,” she said, emphasizing that it’s about attacking Title IX and trying “to get everyone on board with supporting defunding their own civil rights.”
She explained that Title IX is also the mechanism through which women report campus assaults and that while the Trump administration is distracting everyone with anti-trans fearmongering, it “quietly defunded the civil rights division of enforcement in the administration on Title IX.”
yep, exactly. they say they’re protecting women as a screen to harm women.
Because as soon as they ban trans women from something, ‘transvestigations’ and genital inspections will be happening the very next day.
Any woman who doesn’t perfectly conform to their idea of what a woman should be will become a target.
The definition of “transgender” will simply expand to include any cis woman that doesn’t conform to conservative standards of appropriate female dress, behavior, and career choice.
Oh, you’re a woman who wants to study engineering? Sorry, we can’t allow that at this school. We don’t support transgender people here.
I think they would do “genital inspections”, as an excuse to violate women. For fun.
I think a reasonable argument for people to use is that they care about trans rights at this point in time because they are under threat, but what they actually care about is everybody’s human rights. Start from empathy, respect, and dignity, then look for what supports that.
People shouldn’t need to grovel for medical care, they should be able to access it. People shouldn’t have to jump through hoops for gender affirming care, cis men with erectile dysfunction should be able to access medical support. People shouldn’t have to prove their mental health is impacted to modify their body, women should be able to get whatever tattoos or piercings they like. It doesn’t matter who you are, you should be able to access reasonable levels of care and support from the society you are a part of.
Right now trans people are the most under threat, but at some point that will be a historical fact and a different group will the current target, at which point they become the focus of defence and support. Ideally being trans would be like getting tattoos, something that is your business, nobody else’s, and something people feel impolite for asking too much about.
Every day more nazi things are happening. everyday.
I feel like im going insane. 20 years ago, if you said “the Tvs and phones are all listening to us” youd be thrown in the grippy sock hotel. But today, it is truth, and each day, our low trust society grows.
I cant even leave the house without eyeing some people up wondering if theyre a fucking nazi or not. I cant trust a man who dont have a beard. I see young, clean shaven, buzz cut men with crosses around thier neck… and I just, worry. Yesterday I saw a latino man with that nazi looking eagle on his sweater.
Im glad for sane, smart voices. But, its so real out here. I live by a small airport, and the back hawks and shinooks normally run drills 3 days outta a month. Theyve been running drills everyday, all day, for over a week now. I feel paranoid. Just saw an article they fired a woman for supporting trans healthcare in the military :(
Im just a dumb dumb, but this is seriously some frog boiling in the pot of water shit. It is so terrifying to see.
I know how you feel and it’s not wrong to be worried - stay safe out there. But I would be careful reading too much into that appearance. Beards to me indicate more often right-wing men, but in truth, it’s just a bad heuristic. It’s hard to tell for most people and being suspicious of too many in the gray area is just tiring.
Anyway, all us sane people are all in this together, remind yourself that we’ll eventually reach bottom. Nothing lasts forever, including the bad times. And if you’re in the US, please vote.
The other day I stopped at a coffee shop I rarely go to and was accused of being a cop. That was kinda funny.
Though, in retrospect, I do happen to look like I stepped off a nazi propaganda poster, and instead of spending money on sunglasses I just wear the UV safety goggles my lab buys by the crate, which look kinda similar to the wraparound Oakleys that populate…specific…profile pictures.
For what it’s worth, I appear every bit the stereotype of dumb old conservative. I can lean into it even harder if necessary. I am fully prepared to use this ability to thwart fascism. I’m also a firearm owner, and I know I’m going to have to make some difficult choices in the near future.
Now imagine if you were black and were seeing this.
The one blackish friend I had (immigrant at 14 from Trinidad) believes in evangelical christianty and is a maga supporter.
I tried to talk to them, but they hate trans people and anyone not from thier specific carribean island.
I live near a lot of folks from puerto rico. I befriended a few over the the last few years, who I was chill with until politics came up. 3/3 maga supporters. Fucking makes me very sad. Its the same, they hate trans people and anyone not from thier island.
Or LGBT+
It’s never the wrong time to do the right thing. Fighting a “losing issue” is exactly how you persuade people you’re right about the issue. That’s called “leadership”.
This is exactly it. It’s what politics is supposed to be about. AOC gets it. For clear moral issues like this, you can’t back down.
It’s a big reason why Democrats are so weak. Most, especially those in leadership, have given up trying to persuade people by doing the right thing. We need to persuade especially on issues that are inspiring violence and hate on the other side. Taking the other side’s stance, particularly when it’s so clearly on the wrong side of morality/history/humanity, never made sense as a strategy to me. It’s disgusting.
I constantly rail against the “Both sides” thing because, well, both side are NOT the same. Even establishment Dems are radically different than Republicans.
However.
I am also firmly of the opinion that establishment Dems are corrupted and taking money from our oligarchs, and that they try to use things like “but we have to compromise and not scare off the centrists” as a smokescreen for their corruption.
The fact of the matter is that we are largely fucked. That we have any hope at all from folks like AOC and other true progressives seems on a slight upswing since Trump and the fascists have mangled things so visibly in the last couple of years, but midterms always swing the other way, so I’m scared that this is another temporary swingback and come 2028, we’ll be fucked again.
But maybe those associated with the DSA and those like AOC and Mamdani are finding ways of breaking through some of the fascist propaganda. I sure hope so, because the only other way out will cost lots of blood and isn’t a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination.
I’d have said ‘get fucked’, but ‘they’re wrong’ is good, too.
“They’re wrong” is three words though. Only partly why I like “get fucked” better.
Good to hear her stance hasn’t budged in the years since the Donkey Kong incident.
Defending attack ads in general is a losing strategy. Focus on the issues and ignore attacks, more people are likely to listen to what you have to say that way. As for trans issues, it’s not a good look to bully suicidal kids for political clout.
If you guys are shocked these Republican morons fall for this shit, look at this https://youtu.be/MrehpxfLNrg
These people are literarily brain dead it’s genuinely insane how stupid they are.
That’s three words.
That is technically correct and part of learning English (for non native speakers).
Who else are they going to support though? Two parties have a stranglehold. Your options are between not good enough, horrible, and not participating at all. Not preventing Republicans also disempowers your voice in regard to all other issues and means revoking support for everyone elses issues. So why would those people keep supporting yours as much?
So where does it end? If you compromise on somebody’s rights with the justification that you need to protect everybody else, where’s the line you don’t cross? There’s no principle built in to that approach. Theoretically, you can justify throwing all people of color under the bus in order to protect white women, with that logic.
If Democrats abandon trans people now, the fascists won’t be satisfied. Who’s next?
Yes, there is no good option. Everything is a risk. But everything is also at risk. We can’t trust people will help after? Can one endure a disproportionate amount of sacrifice to fight for the entire progressive movement? This entire situation is not about any specific issue, its about the entire framework of law and governance. All rights. All of it.
If someone can’t see anything beyond their own grievances, were they ever a progressive? Or were progressives the only option for trans? Are trans rights somehow more important than brown rights? Or immigrant rights? Women’s? Everybody’s rights?
This is not business as usual. This is potentially the end of democracy in America and if someone won’t help because they’re not getting enough attention, they an asshole. That is a level of selfishness that is cruelty, to anyone that was once called an ally. The safest spaces in American for trans are still the progressive side. So not supporting the best available option is wise?
There are no good options, so refuse to pick the best one? Insane to me. Massive strategic error. It ends wherever the left is capable of ending it and right now, nobody knows where that is but it isn’t where it is now. You don’t think the left is trying just because they haven’t succeeded? Maybe more participation is what halts the Nazis marching as soon a possible. But disengage instead…that will help you…
Not sure how to parse this comment. The point here is that, as a practical matter, no one’s rights are safe unless everybody’s rights are safe, and AOC is correct that Democrats are wrong to disengage on trans rights, because it’s ultimately abandoning everybody’s rights, which is the end of democracy.
If you compromise on somebody’s rights with the justification that you need to protect everybody else, where’s the line you don’t cross?
Voting is mere harm reduction. Voting for a candidate doesn’t mean I agree with them or that I’m compromising on anyone’s rights – I’m just ticking the box that will cause the least near-term harm.
The real decision whether to compromise or not happens in real life. In the streets, at your work or school, in your home.
Well said.
Not the two words I was thinking of, but I’ll take it.
I suspect that the majority of voters would prefer a policy of tolerance over the Republican party’s performative cruelty, but “we should treat these harmless eccentrics with basic human dignity” is one thing while transgender participation in sports or permanent procedures done on children are another.
Puberty is permanent, you nasty wad of shoe gum. The wrong puberty causes changes that, at best, have to be repaired with surgery, some changes are irreversible, and the worst result of the wrong puberty is suicidal ideation that some trans kids don’t survive. Puberty blockers are the only non-permanent physical option for trans kids, and the years those kids spend waiting for the adults to let them go through the right puberty they’re never getting back. And there’s social and emotional consequences to delaying puberty. No teenager is just rolling up and getting HRT without an entire care team approving it and regret rates for kids who medically transition is vanishingly low - you’re advocating for 100 trans kids to suffer and possibly die by suicide to protect maybe one cis kid from making a mistake.
You do realize that they’ve done the research and Trans Women have no advantage after two years of hormone therapy right? FTMs already play in men’s sports and no one complains about it, just when it’s MTFs in women’s sports.
And as for permanent procedures done on children, gender dysphoria is real and needs to be treated. You don’t tell kids with cancer that they need to “learn to love their tumors” that chemotherapy is “too big a decision for someone your age.”
Here’s the thing: That’s total bullshit. Just like my comment above, if you’re willing to compromise a little bit on people’s basic human dignity, where’s the line?
(Also, gender-affirming, permanent surgery performed on children describes circumcision. People pretending to be concerned about it on principle are lying.)
