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    21 hours ago

    The people building the new data centers aren’t human tho

    They’re transhumanists

    Literally the enemy of humanity

    Look it up

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      Transhumanist aren’t anti-humanism???

      It got infected by corpo bastards and they created a splinter group of fasc-transhumanism

      But it’s a leftist ideal originally, and still has lots of leftist philosophers that believe in it. Popularised by Aldous Huxley’s (Brave New World author) brother, Julian

      A simple idea: to merge humanity and artificial to make humans that are able to customise their selves as easily as changing clothes, and to defeat death

      Some existing not fasc transhumanist factions:

      • Abolitionism - complete removal of all suffering, through technology
      • Equalism - even redistribution of all resources, through technology
      • Postgenderism - complete removal of gender, through artificial wombs, artificial penis with functioning ejaculate, etc, so that people can change gender and sex as easily as clothes, through technology
      • Technogaianism - applying transhumanist ideals to all of nature, to restore Earth’s environment and developing safe, clean, alternative technology
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      8 hours ago

      Transhumanists are human. Holding a certain belief, even if it’s an awful one, doesn’t make you an alien or reptile or something.

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        The beliefs they hold are unbecoming of a human

        They would eagerly shed the title of human themselves if they were intellectually capable enough to produce the technology they fantasize about. Instead, they’re destroying the environment for a moronic word guessing machine.

        They don’t want the title, and frankly they’re not deserving of it

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      21 hours ago

      They’re only transhumanist up until the human in question is trans. Basically the same way they treat free speech, rules for thee but not for me.

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        13 hours ago

        They want to become uploaded themselves into the matrix and then kill all of the humans, trans or otherwise.

        Also, look up the Zizians, AI psychopathy is not limited to cis-gendered people unfortunately.

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            Sounds like a more generous fate than they deserve, but it would be fine by me, so long as it is it ends with them being gone

            They’re not exactly Lennie characters

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      21 hours ago

      Transhumanism isn’t inherently anti-human. Current oligarchs are though

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        13 hours ago

        I haven’t heard it described in any way that wasn’t hostile to humanity

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          12 hours ago

          Wikipedia

          a transhuman is a being that resembles a human in most respects but who has powers and abilities beyond those of standard humans.

          Wiktionary:

          1. An enhanced human
          2. A being that transcends humanity; a superhuman being.

          Merriam-Webster:

          Trancending human limits : superhuman

          Oxford english dictionary

          Beyond the human; superhuman.

          None of those make it inherently anti-human. That’s like saying a man who wants to be a woman is also anti-man.

          If I want to be stronger or smarter or anything through technological means, why would that make me anti-human? I can even be prohuman despite being transhuman.

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            I’m glad you found the definition. Go people who call themselves, trans humanists believe, because it is antihuman.

            Look up TESCREAL

            And no, it’s not the same as saying a trans woman is anti-man, because trans. Women don’t want to exterminate all of the men after they complete their transition.

            If you want to be stronger, go to the . If you want to be , read more and learn critical thinking skills. Technology will not help you with either of those.

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            While technically correct, fascism and transhumanism are deeply intertwined in their quest to eliminate suffering through technology. That’s pretty much what the Nazis propagated with genocide as their tool of choice to achieve a “healthy race” or whatever. You will see a lot of self proclaimed transhumanists (and especially the rich ones) are really just anti-humanists in their methods. Elon Musk doesn’t want to develop brain chips to cure illnesses. He lies. He wants to own us.

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              9 hours ago

              When you say “a lot of” you are talking about less than ten people. They are just the loudest ones because they literally own their media platforms. I’m sure there are orders of magnitude more scientists and just scifi fans who dream of transhumanism for the good.

              Have you considered that maybe rich are inherently evil? Or maybe forcing the thing on other people is the evil part, not the thing itself?

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            8 hours ago

            Yeah… And who will be able to pay for these “upgrades”? The ones that have them, will be the “real ones”. The ones that not, will be the ones who are to eliminate, or to sell the cure for the illness of being a human without any tech inside.

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              8 hours ago

              Are you killing everyone who can’t affors as fancy phone as you? Are you killing homeless people because they don’t live in a house like you? Am I suddenly evil if I glue a helmet on my head permanently?

              Evil people will do evil stuff what ever means they want and that doesn’t make transhumanism inherently evil.