Ok, clearly you’ve misunderstood me as a centrist which is hilarious. I’m further left than any US candidate and it allows me to be clearheaded about how wimpy the dems in my country are. I’ll accept an apology for all the name calling, if you wanna.
I know the current state of politics has got everyone assuming the worst. Let’s just start over. Hello, I am a Marxist that occasionally votes Democrat because it is better than the alternative. You?
I would do what I currently do. Get out, protest, educate people about how their vote will affect their lives. I live in Los Angeles, and as many know its an insane battle here. The voter packet is thick as a brick. I’ve been walking people through where to vote and how to get there, even paying to help people get there. This election will affect many unhoused people. What are you doing? Because just voting blue isn’t it, my friend.
Good, that’s all great ways to engage. I’m doing all I can, too, albeit less than that because I’m not physically able. I’m encouraging others to do those things, and I’m arguing with centrists and political nihilists where i can.
We need optimism right now, not pessimism, though. Don’t undermine your physical efforts by pushing pessimism online. Really not sure why you’re doing that.
I get that things feel bad. But don’t spread the bad, I say.
Don’t undermine your physical efforts by pushing pessimism online.
Pointing out shitty things Democrats have done and holding them to account for their votes and actions is not advocating for fascism. Jesus, you guys are so damn fragile about this. This is such a huge part of why they have no incentive to actually improve. Schumer and crew know they can make bank doing what AIPAC and other lobbyist groups ask, and there will always be someone to jump up at the sign of the mildest of criticism, like saying he has been ineffective in using the power of his office to do anything other than advance the interests of Israel, and you’re ready to tear people to bits over supporting fascism just because they won’t disavow the facts they’ve seen with their very eyes.
If you think people pointing out Dems are still helping the GOP with votes for things like prolonging the illegal war in Iran, financing genocide in Gaza, or failing to speak out when their colleagues are the victims of harassment and racism from Trump and the GOP is going to depress voter turnout for them, maybe channel that effort into writing them and telling them to knock that stuff off or risk being removed from their office, rather than getting mad at the person who is literally just reporting on the actions, or conspicuous inaction, of public figures. Your politicians are ultimately responsible for their votes and actions, and those two things are supposed to help inform voters as to a politician’s values, so they can make informed choices when the time does come to vote.
Keep reading this thread. My point is not that we shouldn’t point these things out. We absolutely should, and often, and most of the time.
My point is that belongs in the primaries and the rest of the year, not when we have legally narrowed options. Doing this now can only help the fascists.
There’s a lot of time to argue these nuances, but within days of a general is not that time.
Being picky about who represents us is never pessimistic. Its our civic duty. When I say dems are pub-lite, its because most of them are. We deserve people who really differ from that conservative poison, not people who just pose. I guess what I’m trying to say is, I’ve been around long enough to know that the bandaid ain’t the solution.
O really? How old are you? Don’t be shy.
Your babbling is not helping your case.
Tell me, who was the first president you voted for? I’m so tired of ‘centrist’ bullshit.
Ok, clearly you’ve misunderstood me as a centrist which is hilarious. I’m further left than any US candidate and it allows me to be clearheaded about how wimpy the dems in my country are. I’ll accept an apology for all the name calling, if you wanna.
Why are you trying to push both sides bullshit if you’re not a centrist?
No apologies, you’re the one being ridiculous here.
How do you think we should fix things, senpai?
I know the current state of politics has got everyone assuming the worst. Let’s just start over. Hello, I am a Marxist that occasionally votes Democrat because it is better than the alternative. You?
I’m not sure you do understand. If you did, you wouldn’t be discouraging people. That’s how fascism takes us.
So you’re right, let’s start over.
What specifically would you do right now, in this climate, to fix things? Given that being negative online only helps fascists?
I would do what I currently do. Get out, protest, educate people about how their vote will affect their lives. I live in Los Angeles, and as many know its an insane battle here. The voter packet is thick as a brick. I’ve been walking people through where to vote and how to get there, even paying to help people get there. This election will affect many unhoused people. What are you doing? Because just voting blue isn’t it, my friend.
Good, that’s all great ways to engage. I’m doing all I can, too, albeit less than that because I’m not physically able. I’m encouraging others to do those things, and I’m arguing with centrists and political nihilists where i can.
We need optimism right now, not pessimism, though. Don’t undermine your physical efforts by pushing pessimism online. Really not sure why you’re doing that.
I get that things feel bad. But don’t spread the bad, I say.
Pointing out shitty things Democrats have done and holding them to account for their votes and actions is not advocating for fascism. Jesus, you guys are so damn fragile about this. This is such a huge part of why they have no incentive to actually improve. Schumer and crew know they can make bank doing what AIPAC and other lobbyist groups ask, and there will always be someone to jump up at the sign of the mildest of criticism, like saying he has been ineffective in using the power of his office to do anything other than advance the interests of Israel, and you’re ready to tear people to bits over supporting fascism just because they won’t disavow the facts they’ve seen with their very eyes.
If you think people pointing out Dems are still helping the GOP with votes for things like prolonging the illegal war in Iran, financing genocide in Gaza, or failing to speak out when their colleagues are the victims of harassment and racism from Trump and the GOP is going to depress voter turnout for them, maybe channel that effort into writing them and telling them to knock that stuff off or risk being removed from their office, rather than getting mad at the person who is literally just reporting on the actions, or conspicuous inaction, of public figures. Your politicians are ultimately responsible for their votes and actions, and those two things are supposed to help inform voters as to a politician’s values, so they can make informed choices when the time does come to vote.
Keep reading this thread. My point is not that we shouldn’t point these things out. We absolutely should, and often, and most of the time.
My point is that belongs in the primaries and the rest of the year, not when we have legally narrowed options. Doing this now can only help the fascists.
There’s a lot of time to argue these nuances, but within days of a general is not that time.
Being picky about who represents us is never pessimistic. Its our civic duty. When I say dems are pub-lite, its because most of them are. We deserve people who really differ from that conservative poison, not people who just pose. I guess what I’m trying to say is, I’ve been around long enough to know that the bandaid ain’t the solution.
Yes, and we should be picky as fuck during the primaries. Now we’re past that, and these are the candidates we have.
Primaries are where we do that sort of infighting. Now, in the generals, we need to circle the wagons.
I hope you brought your vitriol to the primaries, because that’s where it belongs, not here.