We're Investing in a Future That Won't Exist with Indy Johar
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(Conversation recorded on September 23rd, 2026)Traditional financial management tells us that, if we invest right, we’ll be able to retire and sink into a fu...

cross-posted from: https://dboft.com/post/14389/nate-hagens-and-indy-johar

In this conversation with Nate Hagens, Indy Johar argues that money is a claim on a future that’s being withdrawn. Climate, food, AI and conflict are now feeding each other in ways no market prices. His message to wealth holders isn’t “be kind” but “be smart” put some of your capital toward financing stability itself, the way you’d buy fire insurance. He also asks what it means to be human once machines can work and think, and points, tentatively, toward consciousness, our ability to know what we don’t know, and courage. Watch it to see the whole system at once, and to swap passive hope for …agency.

Anyone watch/listen yet?

  • kalman@dboft.comOP
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    1 hour ago

    Ok, so here is my summary of this… Everything you own is really a promise about the future. Those promises only hold if two things stay steady: the climate and the economy. AI is pulling at the economy by replacing workers. The heat already in the atmosphere is pulling at the climate. So the ground every investment was built on is moving, and the old ways of finding an edge are already dead, most just haven’t noticed yet.

    People are selfish, and Indy isn’t asking them to change. He’s saying the smart selfish move is to put a slice of your money into the stuff that keeps the ground still, like cooling cities, stabilizing the Arctic, and keeping land from burning. Think of it as fire insurance for everything else you own. The catch is everyone wants someone else to pay for it…and the people with the most money might just buy a bunker instead. His answer is that no bunker works in a world where everything is connected.