Oh only smooth brain Dems and memory holed liberals would take that for sarcasm.
It was a subject of intense debate during the Obama administration, and like every thing this current administration takes for granted in their authoritarian sweep, the basic infrastructure for those actions was installed by under Democratic administrations, or at least neoliberal/ administrations.
This was the debate we were having, and liberals of the time were largely fine with the role of the presidency, because it was there team in charge. I strongly recommend this old episode because exactly this problem was being discussed almost 15 years ago. And if you don’t have a problem with it when it’s a Democrat doing it, you don’t have a problem with it.
He’s the leader of MAGA. He doesn’t represent America. This is a very important and distinct difference that one who is capable of nuanced thought would easily understand.
Except that not only is that the antithesis of how a federal system works but do you really think that all the tribes support this just as one for instance? Being a tribal member I can just tell you that we don’t and he has been trying to undo our citizenship since day one because of it. What about all the places in the US that can’t vote for the president? I’m not totally sure you understand what the word nuanced actually means.
that not only is that the antithesis of how a federal system works
What in the world are you talking about? Every leader of every region in the world represents their people, regardless of what any of those people think of them. That’s why they’re called “representatives”. That’s exactly how that works.
President Xi doesn’t come to the US and meet with Barack Obama, because he doesn’t represent America, and can’t make decisions for them.
What in the world are you talking about? You seem to be completely forgetting how many times state governors meet with world leaders just like the leader of Germany would.
Would you say that Gavin Newsom doesn’t represent California because Trump exists?
The federal system is literally designed such that the head of the EU isn’t the only person representing interests in the EU and the US is exactly the same way. To say that Trump represents the whole of the US is a childish oversimplification at best.
You seem to be completely forgetting how many times state governors meet with world leaders
Remind me, which state is Obama the governor of?
Would you say that Gavin Newsom doesn’t represent California because Trump exists?
…huh? Newsom represents the state of California. Trump represents the country of America.
To say that Trump represents the whole of the US is a childish oversimplification at best.
To say that he doesn’t is just extremely ignorant. I don’t even know how to go about explaining this. He’s the President of the USA. It’s literally the only thing he does is represent America.
What does Obama have anything to do with this? You brought him up and continuing to do so is just showing that you don’t have a real argument to make here.
So you think that every German in the 1930-1940’s were racist Jew-hating jack-booted authoritarians?
Clearly, you are not one of those people that are capable of nuanced thought. Therefore, IMHO, I think you’re probably going to be useless to any discussion I might find myself in. So…. Blocked.
Learn how to be a better person. Like me, the rest of the world won’t wait for you.
So you think that every German in the 1930-1940’s were racist Jew-hating jack-booted authoritarians?
Of course not, but if you answered on your history test that Hitler didn’t represent Germany, you would flunk. These are not the same thing. Clearly you are not one of those people capable of nuanced thought. Learn how to be a more educated person.
Did the ones that weren’t matter? Did they keep the war from happening or keep millions from being killed in camps? So yeah, he doesn’t represent me or my beliefs, but he sure as shit has been able to order the deaths and deportations of thousands. To deny that influence because not everyone in the u.s. agrees is just silly.
Someone tells you a hard truth and you just block them.
I’m sorry to tell you that you’re going to need to block pretty much anyone who is not American, or a Russian bot, because anyone paying attention agrees with the guy you just blocked.
The majority of conservatives now support Russia. There are still some conservatives that haven’t gotten on board yet, but they will fall in line as they are not known for splitting the party.
I, unfortunately, live in a red state. I am surrounded by conservatives. I grew up in the Seattle area so I know you are correct, but it doesn’t feel that way where I live.
And since the first time that bag of rancid gonorrhoea was elected there’s been:
An insurrection.
A bunch of court cases that ended with convicted felonies.
A successful rape trial, and payout.
A raid because a lorry load of top secret documents were stolen… AND then stored in an unlocked room next to a fax machine. A FUCKING FAX MACHINE.
A blatant attempt to flood a server area which held the CCTV footage.
A confession about showing said documents to a journalist (I think), plus other people.
And those are just the bullet points I can quickly think of of easily proven corruption and illegality. But there’s more. So much more.
So, yeah, if a country elects a disgusting thing like that again and again then I’m believing it’s what they want.
I didn’t vote for, nor do I support trump. Therefore. Your “facts” are already wrong as ALL of America is only represented by the entirely of it. And while I live here, I am represented.
And in the event that my omission alone is not enough of an example for you to understand that some ≠ all, by my math, roughly 272,358,341 people of the 349,660,921 citizens in this county didn’t vote for him either.
So maybe you should start the process of changing your “facts” to fit reality.
America is most certainly NOT an ally of Russia. Only that traitorous coward and his administration is.
That traitorous coward is the leader of America. So yes, it is.
A result of the push towards the imperial presidency.
Thanks Obama.
Sarcasm, in this economy? You are braver than I thought.
Oh only smooth brain Dems and memory holed liberals would take that for sarcasm.
It was a subject of intense debate during the Obama administration, and like every thing this current administration takes for granted in their authoritarian sweep, the basic infrastructure for those actions was installed by under Democratic administrations, or at least neoliberal/ administrations.
This was the debate we were having, and liberals of the time were largely fine with the role of the presidency, because it was there team in charge. I strongly recommend this old episode because exactly this problem was being discussed almost 15 years ago. And if you don’t have a problem with it when it’s a Democrat doing it, you don’t have a problem with it.
Intelligence Squared debate: ## Has The President Usurped The Constitutional Power Of Congress?
Even if you disagree and you think Trump is a mushroom that popped out of the soil in the night, you should watch or listen to the above debate.
He’s the leader of MAGA. He doesn’t represent America. This is a very important and distinct difference that one who is capable of nuanced thought would easily understand.
LOL anyone capable of nuanced thought would absolutely understand that the President of The United States of America 100% represents America.
It’s hard for some of us to accept just how ugly America’s underbelly is.
Except that not only is that the antithesis of how a federal system works but do you really think that all the tribes support this just as one for instance? Being a tribal member I can just tell you that we don’t and he has been trying to undo our citizenship since day one because of it. What about all the places in the US that can’t vote for the president? I’m not totally sure you understand what the word nuanced actually means.
What in the world are you talking about? Every leader of every region in the world represents their people, regardless of what any of those people think of them. That’s why they’re called “representatives”. That’s exactly how that works.
President Xi doesn’t come to the US and meet with Barack Obama, because he doesn’t represent America, and can’t make decisions for them.
What in the world are you talking about? You seem to be completely forgetting how many times state governors meet with world leaders just like the leader of Germany would.
Would you say that Gavin Newsom doesn’t represent California because Trump exists?
The federal system is literally designed such that the head of the EU isn’t the only person representing interests in the EU and the US is exactly the same way. To say that Trump represents the whole of the US is a childish oversimplification at best.
Remind me, which state is Obama the governor of?
…huh? Newsom represents the state of California. Trump represents the country of America.
To say that he doesn’t is just extremely ignorant. I don’t even know how to go about explaining this. He’s the President of the USA. It’s literally the only thing he does is represent America.
What does Obama have anything to do with this? You brought him up and continuing to do so is just showing that you don’t have a real argument to make here.
So you think that every German in the 1930-1940’s were racist Jew-hating jack-booted authoritarians?
Clearly, you are not one of those people that are capable of nuanced thought. Therefore, IMHO, I think you’re probably going to be useless to any discussion I might find myself in. So…. Blocked.
Learn how to be a better person. Like me, the rest of the world won’t wait for you.
Of course not, but if you answered on your history test that Hitler didn’t represent Germany, you would flunk. These are not the same thing. Clearly you are not one of those people capable of nuanced thought. Learn how to be a more educated person.
Find another word than nuanced, you’re embarrassing yourself regardless of being right or wrong.
Its @pratai@piefed.ca that keeps talking about nuance, not @artyom@piefed.social
I can’t keep anyone straight on here
Did the ones that weren’t matter? Did they keep the war from happening or keep millions from being killed in camps? So yeah, he doesn’t represent me or my beliefs, but he sure as shit has been able to order the deaths and deportations of thousands. To deny that influence because not everyone in the u.s. agrees is just silly.
Blaming an entire nation on the lunacy of its leader isn’t helpful in ANY way. Do better.
"We are only hundreds of millions of people here! What could we possibly do?!
“We tried nothing and are all out of ideas.”
What are you, as a nation, going to do about the lunacy of your leader?
The last decade has demonstrated that your entire nation is incapable of doing anything at all, to your great shame.
The stench of your inaction will linger across the globe for decades.
What would you have us do bud? I’d love to hear it.
This is so pathetic.
Someone tells you a hard truth and you just block them.
I’m sorry to tell you that you’re going to need to block pretty much anyone who is not American, or a Russian bot, because anyone paying attention agrees with the guy you just blocked.
look at where we are. Do you think I expect people to agree with me?
I’m not here to argue color with the colorblind. I’m just staring reality. You know, that thing that is too often suspend to support the hive here??
LOL you know nothing of reality. You live in a fantasy world where the President doesn’t represent their country.
that fuckin guy coudn’t lead a tour of his own house.
And yet…
The majority of conservatives now support Russia. There are still some conservatives that haven’t gotten on board yet, but they will fall in line as they are not known for splitting the party.
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/13/1231221273/the-republican-party-has-grown-much-more-supportive-of-russia-in-recent-years
And America isn’t entirely made up of republicans.
I, unfortunately, live in a red state. I am surrounded by conservatives. I grew up in the Seattle area so I know you are correct, but it doesn’t feel that way where I live.
That is a meaningless distinction.
Not to those of us that want nothing to do with fascists and dictators.
You don’t get to tell others what’s meaningless to them. If it is meaningless to you, then stay out of it.
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Twice. Fucking TWICE!
And since the first time that bag of rancid gonorrhoea was elected there’s been:
An insurrection.
A bunch of court cases that ended with convicted felonies.
A successful rape trial, and payout.
A raid because a lorry load of top secret documents were stolen… AND then stored in an unlocked room next to a fax machine. A FUCKING FAX MACHINE.
A blatant attempt to flood a server area which held the CCTV footage.
A confession about showing said documents to a journalist (I think), plus other people.
And those are just the bullet points I can quickly think of of easily proven corruption and illegality. But there’s more. So much more.
So, yeah, if a country elects a disgusting thing like that again and again then I’m believing it’s what they want.
And people think the two candidates are the same.
‘It’s the systems fault, not mine! I had no reasonable choice! Damn them all! I’m the victim here!’ - sitouts justifying their role in 2024
Smfh
And who didn’t?
Well, facts would say otherwise.
I didn’t vote for, nor do I support trump. Therefore. Your “facts” are already wrong as ALL of America is only represented by the entirely of it. And while I live here, I am represented.
And in the event that my omission alone is not enough of an example for you to understand that some ≠ all, by my math, roughly 272,358,341 people of the 349,660,921 citizens in this county didn’t vote for him either.
So maybe you should start the process of changing your “facts” to fit reality.