• BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.ml
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    27 days ago

    Sad to start out with an ad hominem. All of the things stated is verified, that you do not like facts do not make them less so

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      26 days ago

      “Your statement is a conspiracy theory” is a true about what they said, not a statement about their character but alright.

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        26 days ago

        It is is a dismissal of the others arguments based on nothing but the perceived character of the arguments/the person making the argument. It is an ad hominem. You are in no way engaging with anything the other says, instead you are relying on a simple attack on character. That is an ad hominem.
        If the statements are conspiracy theories then it would do well to prove such an assertion. By simply stating it and then fleeing from any reasonable discussion makes you appear as a fanatic cultust that cannot handle challenge. This is not good optics for you

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          26 days ago

          Ad hominem literally means against/to human, if I said “you are brainwashed so you believe a conspiracy theory” then I am dismissing their argument based on a personal aspect. I was stating what I believe to be a fact about their argument, not anything related to them as a person. I said many of those arguments are conspiracy theories, the implication being it would take 200 hours of research and a dissertation to disprove them, so I just responded to the things I had evidence on hand of.

          Go watch someone debate a flat earther, something that we have mountains of evidence to disprove. Anyone who has not spent massive amounts of time researching will make the flat earther seem like they are 100% correct. I know those are conspiracies the same way I know the earth is not flat, but I’m not willing to spend 200 hours researching it for no actual gain in knowledge.

          The fact that several things I did know were misrepresented to me (Biden supported the crime bill, but leave out that black Americans also supported it) makes me highly skeptical of everything else, which further proves to me that the rest were conspiracy theories. If it’s correct why the need for misrepresentation?

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            26 days ago

            ad hominem literally means

            Thanks for starting out with showing you’re arguing at the level of Jordan Peterson, so I know I dont have to waste my time reading the rest of your drivel. We all know what the words mean, you need to learn what the fallacy is.
            You are doing the thing little children do of going “Uhh i didnt specifically say the thing” but in your case its even more pathetic because you did and it has been explained to you.

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              25 days ago

              Idk what to tell you ad hominem is a strictly defined fallacy, Jordan Peterson redefines common words to mean something completely different, this is something with a very narrow definition. Ask a philosophy major, I can ask my philosophy prof from 10 years ago if you want.