cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/45047387

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I’m kinda disgusted with Microsoft and Github has been declining into an AI-Centric hellhole, to the point my recommendations are almost exclusively AI related… And let’s not forget, the new Copilot Training enabled by default (which honestly, how do you get rid of this thing, VSCode also feels intrusive with AI-First bullshittery)

I’ve been wondering about moving to Gitlab but… “Finally, AI for the entire software lifecycle.” is literally plastered in the landing page. So… that feels like a no-go.

Codeberg is very decent, it’s based on Forgejo so ActivityPub is also a thing (but is cross-instance contributions possible?) but it’s exclusive for Source-Available and Free Projects, which, by all means, totally fine! Half of my “active” projects are for free, and are open source (does that make them FOSS even though I’m basically the only dev?)

And last but not least, Forgejo and Gitlab themselves are self-hostable, but…how expensive (price and storage) would it be to self host a Git Forge??

And maybe I’m being narrow-sighted… For FOSS projects in Github, sadly I’ll have no choice but to contribute there, if that’s the only place where the project resides, same for Gitlab, and Codeberg* (unless cross-instance contrib is a thing)

For now, I’m thinking of moving FOSS/OSS projects to Codeberg, but for personal projects? What are some good options?

  • calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    I just selfhost in my own computer. 100% uptime when I need it (I don’t need it when my computer is turned off). And as a bonus, it’s not on the public internet so I’m not training slop scrappers.

  • sbird@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    5 hours ago

    Personally, I use a combination of Codeberg (cloud backups) and a self-hosted Forgejo instance (local backups). Redundancy is always good, if one goes down I still have my projects saved in the other!

      • goober@lemmy.world
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        2 hours ago

        It’s weird to me since it exists and it works but there’s not even something like “there’s Bitbucket but, you know, yuck”.

        Maybe I missed a requirement that it be open source? If so, then I’d fully agree with you - not weird at all.

    • badabim@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      OP is looking for a forge (Github, Gitlab, Forgejo, etc.), not a version control system (git, svn, mercurial, etc.)

  • Kissaki@programming.devEnglish
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    1 day ago

    Codeberg, and because I already have a VPS (server), I’d check for Forgejo packages (I would only use them if security updates automatically update/install).

  • bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    Selfhosting for personal projects is cheap. I’d choose Forgejo because it not so resource hungry as GitLab.

    For my personal projects (all FOSS) I use Codeberg and mirror them to hosted GtiLab and GitHub.

  • talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Some alternative self-hosting options (besides full-fledged “forges”):

    If you don’t need issues and stuff, you could just use git and back it up (by copying or cloning/updating to some other machine).

    You could deploy soft-serve, which is a self-contained git/ssh server with cool cli (beware: it’s not super performant on large repos, so don’t host a clone of the linux kernel on it). Since you’ll use it via ssh, you don’t have to bother with https, certificates, reverse proxies and stuff.

    If you are willing to put some effort into it, the (imho) coolest option would be to use radicle, which is a p2p forge (beware: documentation is not great, and - even if the “core” is solid - the cli tools are very much beta still).

    • Strlcpy@2@programming.devEnglish
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      1 day ago

      I went with the simplest self-hosting I could think of for my private repos:

      ssh my-server 'git init --bare git/foo.git'
git clone my-server:git/foo.git

      You don’t get a web UI or anything but that’s OK for me, I just want the repo.

  • eli@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I’m not a programmer, but I have my dotfiles and bash scripts I like to keep in private repos. I just moved my dotfiles over to Codeberg, gonna do my scripts here soon…

    But been relatively painless. I can see how bigger and public projects will take some coordination and planning but…it’s probably worth it?

    Codeberg has been fun and simple to use, but again, I’m just a hobbyist.

  • terabyterex@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    GitLab. You can’t be emotional about ai., it’s a tool

    When github puts ads in commits, you say “fuck no” but gitlab giving you ai devops tools is fine. If you don’t want to use it, don’t.

    • Nate Cox@programming.devEnglish
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      11 hours ago

      No.

      GenAI is a breeding ground of ethical and moral problems that go way way way beyond ads in commit messages.

      You can absolutely be emotional about a tool that boils away all our water, ruins people’s health and sanity by building enormous light, noise, and polution sources next their houses, and steals our intellectual property to increase the wealth consolidation of the few even further.