This got walked back as the 2020 election drew near. Which is why people are questioning the sincerity of this new opposition. Does this satisfy you that the mainstream opposition to ICE isn’t new during this term?
I see you fail to understand “the democrats voted to increase funding for ICE”, which they did. You seem very set on moving the goalposts instead of relating to the facts at hand. You said it was bullshit, what about the democrats not voting for another bill makes it bullshit that the democratic party voted to increase ICE funding?
Tom Suozzi (New York)
Henry Cuellar (Texas)
Don Davis (North Carolina)
Laura Gillen (New York)
Jared Golden (Maine)
Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)
Marie Glusenkamp Perez (Washington)
{I live in California)
I know “downward trend” is hard to understand. But please make an effort. And stop voting for Republikkkans.
I know this is difficult for you to grasp, but please try to make a miniscule effort: You claimed the post was bullshit, yet you cant disprove it, so you keep trying to move the goalposts. The democrats ensured ICE funding increased each of the years given in the post, that is a fact. Your “proof” that that isn’t a fact is not proof of that, its proof that you think it is okay to fund ICE as long as there’s another party thats worse. Thats literal whataboutism and completely irrelevant to the statement YOU made and YOU have yet to provide proof for.
If you are so certain the statement in the post is bullshit, then why is it so hard for you to actually engage with it, instead of dancing around it? Go through each year given in the post, disprove that the democrats ensured ICE funding for each year given. It should be easy, since its bullshit according to you. Either that or fuck off with your weak rhetorical tricks.
The day it was founded. On what grounds do you argue that the xenophobic minority hunting group with dedicated private concentration camps isn’t a modern gestapo?
Somehow I doubt that. Ground: that’s only orange shitstain’s second term brought “we shoot you because we feel like it” news to me. But I live far from America, so could be wrong
It seems you’re asking in earnest, so here’s some different sources for you to read that might help expand your understanding of how historically terrible the US is.
Focking hell if that’s true. So only thing that’s changed much is that I am now more informed about what they do? (Yes, it is so hard for me to believe that I need this re-stated a few times)
Doubtful. The day it was found it was already an instrument for oppression, but just a gang of armed dumbheads with state approval of whatever they feel like doing? I am still clinging to hopeful thought that it’s a “recent” development, not something that’s been happening for decades
Bullshit. Do I need to spell out why?
Yes please
Done, see my other comments
Thats not you spelling it out lmao. Write out your arguments or at the very least link to a specific comment you think spells it out.
It is spelling it out. But some folks say only thing changed is that I’ve become more informed about what ICE does
I made a comment where I linked to articles from the first trump term where democrats were calling for ICE to be defunded : https://crazypeople.online/comment/11610798
This got walked back as the 2020 election drew near. Which is why people are questioning the sincerity of this new opposition. Does this satisfy you that the mainstream opposition to ICE isn’t new during this term?
“I actually have all the arguments and proof against your position. Just go look for it through my comment history” is not spelling it out you dumbass
Lol. Have a nice day
Have the day you deserve
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025190
The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (the Bill that gave I.C.E. a huge budget increase), not a single Dem voted for it.
https://ballotpedia.org/One_Big_Beautiful_Bill_Act
Seems like a downward trend from the post 9/11 days.
So because of another bill the democrats didn’t vote for, this means they didn’t vote for a bill that they did vote for?
I see you fail to understand “downward trend”. That means there was a high, and over time, the amount has gone down.
“Up” or “high” can be like looking toward the sky. And “down” or “low” can be like looking toward the ground.
A “trend” is something that happens after a period of time.
So the number of people voting for I.C.E. asshole money has gone down over time. Which is a good thing.
Downward trend.
I see you fail to understand “the democrats voted to increase funding for ICE”, which they did. You seem very set on moving the goalposts instead of relating to the facts at hand. You said it was bullshit, what about the democrats not voting for another bill makes it bullshit that the democratic party voted to increase ICE funding?
7 Democrats
218 Republikkkans
https://newrepublic.com/post/205604/seven-democrats-voted-keep-funding-ice
Tom Suozzi (New York)
Henry Cuellar (Texas)
Don Davis (North Carolina)
Laura Gillen (New York)
Jared Golden (Maine)
Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)
Marie Glusenkamp Perez (Washington)
{I live in California)
I know “downward trend” is hard to understand. But please make an effort. And stop voting for Republikkkans.
I know this is difficult for you to grasp, but please try to make a miniscule effort: You claimed the post was bullshit, yet you cant disprove it, so you keep trying to move the goalposts. The democrats ensured ICE funding increased each of the years given in the post, that is a fact. Your “proof” that that isn’t a fact is not proof of that, its proof that you think it is okay to fund ICE as long as there’s another party thats worse. Thats literal whataboutism and completely irrelevant to the statement YOU made and YOU have yet to provide proof for.
If you are so certain the statement in the post is bullshit, then why is it so hard for you to actually engage with it, instead of dancing around it? Go through each year given in the post, disprove that the democrats ensured ICE funding for each year given. It should be easy, since its bullshit according to you. Either that or fuck off with your weak rhetorical tricks.
Why?
When did ICE become yet another version of Gestapo?
I was going to write “instrument of opression”, but state is one by definition, so need to be more specific
The day it was founded. On what grounds do you argue that the xenophobic minority hunting group with dedicated private concentration camps isn’t a modern gestapo?
Somehow I doubt that. Ground: that’s only orange shitstain’s second term brought “we shoot you because we feel like it” news to me. But I live far from America, so could be wrong
It seems you’re asking in earnest, so here’s some different sources for you to read that might help expand your understanding of how historically terrible the US is.
Facilitating the global heroine drug trade - A thread
Massive drone assassination program
What I saw in fallujah
Chicago Police has had “black sites” for decades
Ferguson Riot leaders were assassinated and disappeared under Obama in a dem city with a dem governor [2]
American police used to (and still does) torture detainees [2]
Biden deported more than Trump 1
Biden expanded the concentration camps [2]
Biden was planning on doing mass deportations using ICE as well
Thank you, will read
You are wrong, yes
That’s horrible. Thank you
“Institutional violence only bad when my favorite color team hate it!”
Lol. Did you even read what I said?
The propaganda got completely wild, but the day to day operations didn’t change a whole lot, it’s just more public now
Focking hell if that’s true. So only thing that’s changed much is that I am now more informed about what they do? (Yes, it is so hard for me to believe that I need this re-stated a few times)
The day it was found.
Doubtful. The day it was found it was already an instrument for oppression, but just a gang of armed dumbheads with state approval of whatever they feel like doing? I am still clinging to hopeful thought that it’s a “recent” development, not something that’s been happening for decades
Why didn’t I hear about them execution executing wanton violence before?
Because you didn’t care
Try harder. Didn’t hear != didn’t care
Idk, maybe you had ear surgery or something
Instead of reflecting you are doubling down. Noice, good luck