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    19 hours ago

    Those “fellow Americans” are fascist traitors who are endlessly motivated to oppress absolutely everyone around them. They are systematically attacking the most vulnerable classes, one by one, taunting, arresting and murdering anyone who gets in their way. You are defending fascists while calling people on the internet names because we want justice to be served.

    You freely admit that most conservatives you know are violent, yet you demand me to be peaceful and just sit back and take it. No thanks. That’s not going to work for me.

    I don’t expect most people to be motivated by my enthusiasm, but I know there are a few here and there who will do the right thing with a little encouragement. I think it helps motivate us just knowing that acting alone doesn’t mean we are alone in the fight. No single actor can completely stop conservatives, but reducing some harm is better than doing nothing.

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      Those “fellow Americans” are fascist traitors who are endlessly motivated to oppress

      And you are ready to join them being the next executioner and oppressor.

      They are systematically attacking the most vulnerable classes,

      This isn’t just America, this is the whole fucking world.

      You are defending fascists

      I am looking at the next generation.

      calling people on the internet names

      No, I said you are roleplaying garbage, which you have proven time and time again.

      You freely admit that most conservatives

      Yes, it is easy to recognize them. They do things like advocate murder on left leaning platforms.

      That’s not going to work for me.

      I know, you want their blood because your acting like a ridiculous edgelord.

      I don’t expect most people to be motivated by my enthusiasm,

      You expect them to be inspired by your murderousness.

      but I know there are a few here and there who will do the right thing with a little encouragement

      Now you want others to murder in your name, pathetic.

      I think it helps motivate us just knowing that acting alone

      Yeah, you and your wanna be murder club.

      No single actor can completely stop conservatives

      If everyone joins the murder fest it will be fun!

      reducing some harm is better than doing nothing

      Coming here to roleplay garbage is not the flex you think it is. Go get some help.

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        11 hours ago

        The fact that so many of your comments must include name-calling, like “roleplaying garbage” or “edgelord” reveals the weakness of your position.

        Fighting fascists does not make one a fascist. Meeting the violence of nazis with violent resistance does not make the resistors nazis. Your logic is not logical.

        We can agree that the conservative infestation is global. Good point there. No notes.

        I don’t want anyone to act in my name. I want people to make their own decisions about what their personal role is in resisting. Proactive defense is not for everyone. I respect that. I don’t expect you to ever engage in violence. Those of us willing to put up a defense must do so before it is too late, though.

        The current strategy of conservatives is similar to their strategy in the 30’s and 40’s. That strategy of oppressing vulnerable classes one by one and putting them into camps was effective for many years. Millions of innocent people died. Only overwhelming outside force was able to stop it. No one is coming to save us in the U.S. The conservatives made sure that we maintained ZERO allies, which minimizes the possiblility of escape or rescue.

        The concentration camps are here in the U.S. because of conservatives. Dozens of the biggest ones are not even being used yet, as conservatives are doing their best to keep the public calm before midterms. As conservatives rally for their leadership to declare martial law at midterms, their for-profit concentration camps are preparing to open and accept prisoners. If you are truly not a conservative and you are in the U.S., you are in danger as well. No one is immune from concentration camps.

        I’m definitely taking as many nazis with me as I possibly can BEFORE they put me into a camp. It’s the morally correct thing to do. It won’t stop the conservatism locally or globally, but at least I’ll die knowing I actually fought back.

        Defending them will not keep you out of the camps. Fight or flee, but don’t defend them. Defending evil is evil.

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          10 hours ago

          The fact that so many of your comments must include name-calling, like “roleplaying garbage” or “edgelord” reveals the weakness of your position.

          I said you act like an edgelord. I know English is hard, but you seem to be missing the most basic comprehension of how the language works.

          Fighting fascists does not make one a fascist.

          Whatever bullshit you need to tell yourself.

          violent resistance does not make the resistors nazis. Your logic is not logical.

          This isn’t the Nazi you are resisting, it is your neighbors you know on a first name basis. You are surrounded by conservatives if you live in the US and none of them are trying to kill you actively. It is like you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. What you have is a deranged defense fantasy syndrome.

          We can agree that the conservative infestation is global. Good point there. No notes.

          The vast majority of the world would be considered conservative. Anyone supporting traditional power structures and traditional hierarchy.

          I don’t want anyone to act in my name. I want people to make their own decisions about what their personal role is in resisting

          You can back peddle to resistance all you want. You were talking about murder so pardon me if I don’t trust you now.

          Millions of innocent people died. Only overwhelming outside force was able to stop it.

          Fascism was never defeated. The US was instrumental in creating Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany. US industrialists bank rolled both empires with famous examples like Ford building auto factories in Nazi Germany and letting them keep them and all the profits.

          US corporations also gave material support to the Nazi with IBM developing a census for the Jews (you know those numbers tattooed on their arms) and the helping with the logistics of emptying the ghettos for the Final Solution. Not to mention Hitler himself said he was inspired by the Native American genocide.

          You are so confused it isn’t funny. How in the hell do you expect to fight the “enemy” when you have no clue what the fuck happened or is happening now!? You need to seriously slow down and put a lot more thought into the state of the world.

          The concentration camps are here in the U.S. because of conservatives.

          Many were built under Obama. This has always been a bipartisan issue. The US has been fascist for a very long time now.

          I’m definitely taking as many nazis with me as I possibly can BEFORE they put me into a camp.

          This isn’t happening. You could argue it will come to this, but we aren’t there yet.

          Defending evil is evil.

          I hear you and that is what my primary concern for you is. You are ready to commit to evil under the pretense of righteousness without knowing what is really going on or even being able to identify your so called enemy.

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            10 hours ago

            My “so called enemy” has been calling me their enemy for over 50 years. I know who they are. They insist I am their enemy. I am not given a choice in that role. They chose it for me and treat me as the enemy whether I approve or not.

            You pretend the conservatives around you are not the people who are doing this. It’s the basis of your defense of evil. Your premise is false on its face. Conservatives celebrate and support every tiny bit of what is happening under the fascists they elected. The ONLY thing they complain about is the price of gas. That’s it. They support the rest of it. The violence and terror and murders and kidnappings. They love ALL of it. Because conservatives are genuinely pure evil, whether you choose to see it or not.

            FUN FACT: Conservatives are biologically unable to experience empathy. In fact, conservatives are disgusted by empathy. They claim it is fake, that it doesn’t exist, that it’s a sin or that it’s a weakness. They call it “wokeness” and insist that it needs to die.

            This is why conservative relationships are so shallow. Some amount of empathy is required to develop a deep emotional bond with another person. A conservative cannot experience any empathy at all, so they love their spouse and children with the same depth as a teenager loves a sportscar. It’s a strong emotion, but it’s not a deep, personal bond. This is why conservatives value their families as property rather than as humans.

            Their biological inability to experience empathy is also why bigotry comes so easily to them. A conservative will never see you as a human the way you see them as a human. They cannot experience the empathy required to humanize others the way a normal person does. This is why stories of genocide do not bother them. This is also why every genocide in human history has been led exclusively by conservatives.

            They are telegraphing their haymaker. They are even bragging about it. Refusing to aknowledge it, prepare for it or act upon it is a deadly mistake.

            Two years from now, this conversation will mean absolutely nothing. It will be as if it never happened. Just some thoughts shared between someone who sees the evil and someone who doesn’t, just before that evil consumes them both.

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              9 hours ago

              The more we talk the more it is clear you don’t know what is happening. You have made conservatives into a scape goat to conveniently organize your world into a false dichotomy.

              You are right, something is wrong. You simply can’t accurately define what that is. Two years from now it will business as usual. We will continue marching towards WWIII and scapegoating people for political power. The wealthy will continue to wield unyielding power and we will be divided by their propaganda pitted against one another.

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                8 hours ago

                We agree the wealthy are largely to blame, but conservatives are the loyal defenders of the wealthy. For example, the wealthy do not bust unions on their own. They have conservatives do that for them. Conservatives defend the wealthy at any cost. They always have and always will.

                If not for conservatives, the normal people would be able to charge the wealthy with crimes. If not for conservatives, the wealthy would be required to pay appropriate taxes. The wealthy would be required to pay appropriate wages. The normal people would be able to address wealth inequality, global climate destruction, affordable healthcare and affordable housing. Conservatives are the sole champions of the wealthy on all of these issues. If not for conservatives, each of these issues could be addressed.

                We cannot defeat the boss until his minions are dead.

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                  8 hours ago

                  That is ass backwards. You seem to believe you have to go through everyone to get to the wealthy. The problem is there will always be another sucker to take a “minions” place. You are simply playing into their hands.

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                    7 hours ago

                    We completely disagree on this. The wealthy are too few to vote on their own. They need conservatives to support them with their votes. The wealthy know they can motivate conservatives by promising to satisfy their bloodlust. Nothing motivates a conservative to vote more than the promise of harming a vulnerable class. The wealthy exploit this trait.