• darkdemize@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    We need to stop calling these fuckers conservatives. Conservative implies that you are maintaining the status quo. These bastards are straight-up regressives.

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      6 days ago

      The status quo is the past.

      Reactionary is a better name for the movement though; they want to simp for their masters: the regressive regime where they can play at “owning the left” while bolstering the rent-seeking owner class.

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      The only genuine stance conservatives have is that society should be hierarchical. It’s financially driven by wealthy who want to be essentially an aristocratic class, and since that’s a bitch of a sell, they focus on who’s lower than the average person instead of who’s higher, but the legislative result is always the same, more for the capitalist class. Everything else is window dressing, distractions, and whatever concessions they feel obligated to make.

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      Conservative implies that you are maintaining the status quo.

      No, Conservatism protects the unaccountable privilege of the upper class. That’s the only status quo they maintain. They’ll tear down anything else, no matter how long it’s existed. And it has been that way since the term “conservative” was coined. It was a reaction against Enlightenment ideas that rule of law should apply to everyone, and that those holding positions of power should be appointed by merit and held accountable to the people. It has always favored sinecures, nepotism, royally granted monopolies, bribery and obfuscated ownership.

      The great British politician Tony Benn distilled five questions that should be asked of those in power in order to maintain a functioning democracy:

      • What power have you got?
      • Where did you get it from?
      • In whose interest do you exercise it?
      • To whom are you accountable?
      • How can we get rid of you?

      You will notice that conservatives will always react aggressively when asked any of these questions.

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        No it supposed to mean maintain the status quo. And don’t.be stupid and think the left doesn’t do the exact same thing about the upper class.

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          No it supposed to mean maintain the status quo.

          Look at the enclosure of the commons in the UK for a counterexample. A centuries-long tradition of common ownership of grazing land was overturned because seizing that land enriched already wealthy landowners (represented by the Conservative Party). In other words, the status quo went out the window when it conflicted with the interests of the elite.

          The same could be said of changes to trade policy over the years, in both the UK and the US, where contradictory positions (protectionism for a while, then free trade) were adopted depending on which made a buck for the rich.

          And don’t.be stupid and think the left doesn’t do the exact same thing about the upper class.

          You don’t know anything about my intelligence, and you have no idea what “the left” means when you trot out that weak whatabout.

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      Maintaining what status quo?

      Don’t worry! History has an answer! It’s the divine right of kings!

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      Conservatism has always been shit like this. The idea that it just means “maintaining the status quo” is a lie they tell to whitewash it.