Commission preliminarily finds PornHub, Stripchat, XNXX and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access their services
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The European Commission preliminarily found Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act (DSA) for failing to protect minors from being exposed to pornographic content on their services.

The European Commission preliminarily found Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act (DSA) for failing to protect minors from being exposed to pornographic content on their services.

  • smiletolerantly@awful.systemsEnglish
    11·
    8 hours ago

    It’s mostly just that I don’t want the government to know precisely which websites I visit. Nor do I want the the porn sites to know exactly who I am.

    I understand, I want that too. It’s easily possible though (just one example for a scheme):

    • you visit porn site
    • porn site sends your browser a random nonce
    • you/browser tell government service: sign this if I’m >18
    • government signs the nonce + a timstamp to prove freshness
    • your browser forwards the result to the porn site
    • porn site can verify signature per standard public certificate chains
    • now porn site has proof that you are >18, but knows nothing else about you; and government only knows that you wanted proof that you are an adult, but not for what site or purpose you wanted to prove that

    Alternatively, if we go the “device has an age bracket field browsers access” route, it’s even simpler, and just as if not more privacy preserving.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      4·
      6 hours ago

      That already tells the government that I’m accessing porn because why else would I need to confirm I’m an adult online? And why would they implement it in a somewhat private manner if it could be implemented in a privacy-infringing manner?

      • smiletolerantly@awful.systemsEnglish
        1·
        4 hours ago

        And why would they implement it in a somewhat private manner if it could be implemented in a privacy-infringing manner?

        I honestly don’t think most democratic governments have an interest in making this privacy-infringing. Lobbyists/companies on the other hand… But all the more reason to write legislation that ensures age verification must be handled like this.

        That already tells the government that I’m accessing porn because why else would I need to confirm I’m an adult online?

        Cinema rickets for FSK18 movie? Ordering alcohol? Gambling? Renting a car?

        Basically anything you’re only allowed to do as an adult.

        But that’s kind of why I mentioned, it’s just one rough draft for such a protocol.

        • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          1·
          4 hours ago

          None of the things you mentioned would incur an age check here because car rental companies demand your driver’s license anyway, nobody cares about movie ages, and for alcohol you have to be ID’d in person upon delivery.

          You would also think democratic governments have no incentive to legislate something like chat control, but there’s always factions that want to control people, including here in the EU.

          The ruling classes are scared of what the peasants might get up to when inequality gets too bad or policies too unpopular. Just because it’s less bad here than some other places doesn’t mean people aren’t feeling the effects of it. The people at Brussels must be glad that Estonians don’t have guns and can’t afford two tanks of diesel anyway, because otherwise I reckon there would be a lot of people shooting up the place over energy prices and whatever. Age checks aren’t of much help here, but it adds extra reliability to any browser fingerprint to real identity lookups. Though if you use government services or banks at all, that’s already more or less a done deal.