That’s kind of by far the most important class of problem though. I could complain about the complexity of its notifications system, or how all the ‘servers’ are represented with image icons and it sucks to navigate and find the one you’re thinking of if you add a lot of them, but it’s all small potatoes compared to being run by an enshittifying company complying (often in advance) with terrible laws and moving to use their accumulated leverage against their users. By developing a reliance on their service you put them in charge of you, but they cannot be trusted with that.
it’s all small potatoes compared to being run by an enshittifying company complying (often in advance) with terrible laws and moving to use their accumulated leverage against their users
I don’t disagree there! That’s why I was specific in referring only to their software quality.
It was, but I made it explicitly clear that I was referring to software quality only. They’re free to clarify if they actually mean the company instead of the software.
I don’t know what you’re installing, but it takes 255MB on my phone. If you’re on a desktop, use your browser. Not that it should be much different.
Edit: Also the same size on desktop according to Google. The fact that a statement as incorrect as yours is so heavily upvoted tells me there’s no actual logic and reasoning at play here in this argument.
The problem with electron apps are that they’re literally just browser windows, which require a lot of overhead that you wouldn’t need with a native application. What you’re recommending has no benefit.
The issue is that Electron apps are an acceleration of Wirth’s Law.
Still calling BS on ‘multi-GB’. Runs on mine in a few hundred MB. Not to mention you’re using the wrong terminology if you’re referring to memory usage and not storage space.
Right?
I used Discord for about 15 minutes (OK, 6 months) before I could no longer tolerate it’s crappiness.
How is it crappy? Company policies aside, the software is reasonably decent.
Edit: Highly controversial and downvoted, yet the only reply is misinformation. Way to go lemmy, we’re catching up to reddit quick.
That’s kind of by far the most important class of problem though. I could complain about the complexity of its notifications system, or how all the ‘servers’ are represented with image icons and it sucks to navigate and find the one you’re thinking of if you add a lot of them, but it’s all small potatoes compared to being run by an enshittifying company complying (often in advance) with terrible laws and moving to use their accumulated leverage against their users. By developing a reliance on their service you put them in charge of you, but they cannot be trusted with that.
I don’t disagree there! That’s why I was specific in referring only to their software quality.
That’s your own addition though, it isn’t entirely clear that the person you questioned was talking about issues separate from its power structure.
It was, but I made it explicitly clear that I was referring to software quality only. They’re free to clarify if they actually mean the company instead of the software.
A multi-gigabyte Electron app should not be a requirement for chat, even with voice and video, for one.
someone should reverse engineer it. i bet its full of spyware
I don’t know what you’re installing, but it takes 255MB on my phone. If you’re on a desktop, use your browser. Not that it should be much different.
Edit: Also the same size on desktop according to Google. The fact that a statement as incorrect as yours is so heavily upvoted tells me there’s no actual logic and reasoning at play here in this argument.
The problem with electron apps are that they’re literally just browser windows, which require a lot of overhead that you wouldn’t need with a native application. What you’re recommending has no benefit.
The issue is that Electron apps are an acceleration of Wirth’s Law.
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You are familiar with the concept of RAM, yes?
Still calling BS on ‘multi-GB’. Runs on mine in a few hundred MB. Not to mention you’re using the wrong terminology if you’re referring to memory usage and not storage space.
Must be a windows problem. Discord is neither larger than 500mb in size, and never uses more than a gig of ram on my machine.
There’s a million good reasons to not like discord. Age verification, the advertising, the paid nitro for emojis. Why lie?
OpenSuse Slowroll using the Flatpak shows it at 1.1 GB of RAM doing nothing. Screen sharing pushes it close to 2 GB.
Because hive mind absolutism. Discord bad, everything about it must be bad.
well it isnt? just open the website in a browser.
You can’t be serious
Websites still use RAM.