• deHaga@feddit.uk
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    3 days ago

    How many are abandoned?

    I don’t really trust OBR projections, they’re rarely correct.

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      https://feddit.uk/comment/27885522

      Thank you, that was a whole song and dance that was entirely unnecessary.

      Obviously they’re empty.

      Let’s just say that some are habitable. Therefore they’re relevant. Therefore you cherry picked correct?

      You don’t know how many abandoned houses there are (see thread), you don’t know how many are of any of the houses are habitable (see comment)

      You cannot use partial quotes to cherry pick arguments. So back to my next question you ignored, why are you cherry picking?

      You, of course don’t know how many any of the examples are, so your ignorance as to how many there are, or if they’re habitable is no excuse for why you chose some examples and omitted others.

      Answer this one and we’ll zip up to the first time I asked again.

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        According to your source 97% of house are occupied. Your whole argument that empty houses are a massive problem is false.

        The answer to housing shortage isn’t going going to be found in current housing stock.

        Build more.

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          Ah, you’re back to deflecting again. How boring.

          This is the comment thread we are currently in:

          Those 700k aren’t just sat there empty.

          >>There are various reasons why a home may be vacant, including that they’re up for sale, in probate, or under renovation  
          

          That is the argument we’re currently unpicking. You can deflect all you want.

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            People die, houses go through probate, it can take years.

            Perhaps learn something about the subject you refuse to engage in.

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              People die, houses go through probate, it can take years.

              More deflection.

              Perhaps learn something about the subject you refuse to engage in.

              Here’s the subject you’re refusing to engage in:

              That’s nice. I asked you why you chose to cherry pick the article and take partial quotes. Could you answer that please? Do you consider a house that’s abandoned as unoccupied? Stop cherry picking please.

              Is this going to be like the abandoned house thing again? Where it takes you 20hrs to answer whether they’re occupied? That was such a dull thread.

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        3 days ago

        It’s not a deflection, they’ve listed all the types of unoccupied, how many are in each category?

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          Are abandoned houses unoccupied?

          It is a deflection.

          To be clear now, they’re now relevant enough to know how many in each category?

          Let’s just give this the sniff test:

          Ok, you dismissed abandoned houses as irrelevant because you didn’t know how many there are

          There are various reasons why a home may be vacant, including that they’re up for sale, in probate, under renovation,

          You think these ones are relevant because you did know how many there were?

          Can you see why it’s a deflection? It doesn’t matter to your position how many there are. You, at the time, didn’t know how many there were of any of them, but you made a distinction anyway.

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              Oh gosh, you’re back. More deflection from you I’m afraid.

              Once again, how many times now?

              Are abandoned houses unoccupied?

              Answer that and we’ll zip back up to where I originally asked the question, and we can put your whole song and dance behind us.

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                What? You’ve never asked that question. I asked you how many there were. You’ve got a big list and no numbers. Do better.