Liberals will lie to you and tell you to “just vote in the primary,” but in reality they simply don’t care about trans rights and do not believe there is ever a right time to challenge transphobic Democrats.

First primary: the transphobes hide their colors so you can’t vote against them.

First general election: the snakes reveal their colors, but you can’t vote against the traitors because “blue no matter who.” They tell you to just vote in the next primary.

Second primary: the same people who tell you now “save it for the primary” shift their tune to “we can’t give up an incumbent seat in a purple district!”

Trans people can see through these bad-faith lies. Yet of course, mansplaining trolls will be sure to breathlessly explain “lesser of two evil” math, as if that’s not an argument we haven’t heard a thousand times and already rejected due to its obvious flaws. There’s never a shortage of arrogant cis people who think they know more about trans issues than actual trans people.

Liberals want your votes, not your voices. Be a good little minority and sit down. Shut up. Support the party. You owe the party your support. The party owes you nothing.

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    You know what. You’re right. Vote red. Pick a Republican. That will teach the Democrats to notice trans people. Or don’t vote, that will surely help.

    At the risk of sounding extremely dismissive, because it is, the world is literally on fire and you might not get to win your issue of choice in the next 5 or even 10 elections. Of course every person regardless of majority of minority status deserves to have their basic rights met and to be treated with a modicum of decency and acceptance. Of course. When it comes to elections though, R will come together for any one of no abortion, more guns, less taxes, go church!

    The far left doesn’t win in the US, and won’t win, because, son of a bitch, there is not enough fundamental support for Mediterranean furry vegans with one eye who use glow in the dark blowy wheelchairs. And wouldnt you know it, all 900 trans people on Lemmy and their vegan allies cannot storm the palace by themselves no matter how hard you rage post.

    Yes it sucks. Conservatives are a bloc. The left is not, and each of the 347 extreme minorities can’t play nice together unless their issue is at the forefront which makes a fundamentally impossible purity test for every candidate. Fuck people who are transphobic and good on people who are good allies, but there just isn’t a competitive counter block because the left isn’t full of group-thinking neanderthals.

    I understand that you are mad, but you can’t win shit with 10 people. So do you want the lesser evil or would you rather deal with the obviously worse door number two?

    Your last paragraph is functionally right. You can make your own choice and it sucks no matter what you do. Nobody is winning here. That’s how it is. Fuck.

    The right is full of brainwashable morons and the left is all full of vibrant and unique non-teaming, purity testing assholes with stupid long Linux socks.

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      I understand that you are mad, but you can’t win shit with 10 people. So do you want the lesser evil or would you rather deal with the obviously worse door number two?

      If our numbers are small enough for our issues to not matter, then stop vote-scolding us for how we chose to vote. With one breath you say our numbers are too small to make our issues a purity test for the party. With the next you say it’s our duty to support the party.

      Liberals tell minorities our issues are too minor to worry about and then blame us when we take them at their word and say, “well, I guess you don’t need our votes anyway.”

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        The vote-scolding is almost never towards trans people, it’s towards people who say the dems aren’t doing enough and don’t vote, and let literal fascism win instead. The message is towards the people who aren’t viscerally affected who still didn’t vote or voted 3rd party, and their vote DID matter in this super close election to prevent literal fascism.

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        I’m not talking about you at all when it comes to voting. I have said vote how you want. You need my vote and that’s the whole point of this post isnt it? Let’s all hold Dems accountable? By all means let’s do hold Dems to account, but I intend to see it happen at every primary all the way down the ballot, grass roots style not by spitting on the least worst option. Hell, you can run yourself!

        But when push comes to shove, I know hundreds of people who get fucked by the country headed right and I know 4 trans people who get hurt either way and it sucks. Considering that picture, vote for fucking Yoda who gives a shit? The fate of the world is not hinging on the angry trans vote, but it might hinge on people who would like to buy 10 years to install some candidates that don’t suck.

        I’m in for “whatever is the best possible thing we can get right now”, but if you threaten to take your ball and go home where your dad beats you, then ok, cool power move.

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      You are an awful person and I hope you experience half of the pain we do, you bootlicking piece of human trash.

      There is a trans genocide happening in the US, telling us to suck it up while we die, while we are killed is so fucking awful.

      It’s really amazing how you expect absolutely nothing from the democratic party, how you paint basic support for the rights of trans people as “far left” and how you then expect us to still support you.

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        There is a trans genocide happening in the US, telling us to suck it up while we die, while we are killed is so fucking awful.

        Clearly we should let the republicans take power, that will definitely help out the trans people suffering, right? Because that’s your only other outcome. But if you’re cool with that, by all means, send that message straight into your own foot.

        You are an awful person and I hope you experience half of the pain we do, you bootlicking piece of human trash.

        Says the person implicitly pushing for an outcome that by definition makes the problem worse.

        I fear for my trans partners and friends because of short-sighted people like you who are so focused on the cut the Democrats give you that you’re willing to sever an artery to show them how much you hate them.

        I wish the best for you, even while you advocate for more pain for yourself and those like you.

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        You don’t have to support anybody. Do what you want.

        Trump and the right are burning everything down right here, right now, not just you. Im not picking them or not voting to teach dems a lesson. Let’s be really clear: I hate what is happening to trans people, and people of color, and gay people, and Muslims, and Jews who are not aligned with the state of Israel. Not a single one of those hills is one I would die on if it meant more trump.

        So call me what you want, sir/madam/xer, but weighing any group against wholesale collapse, I’m choosing the lesser evil. I will campaign and vote in the primaries to go as far left as we can get, but I’m not forsaking the only non far right party for any single group that is smaller than literally everyone. The math doesn’t make any sense.

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          sir/madam/xer

          and that fucking “stupid socks” comment clearly show you have no fucking idea whats going on and there is no reason for me to engage with you.

          They could put us in camps and you’d be like “welp, at least the inflation is under control! Thank you DNC!”

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          Nah. I choose collapse. We can all go to Hell together if you’re willing to throw us under the bus.

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            Nah, throwing you under the bus would be voting republican.

            But you do you. Surely you care about the suffering of others, hopefully that care is about reducing it, but I doubt it.

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            Throw trans people under the bus (reality: support trans people but not enough) or literal fascism are your 2 choices. Since option #1 is never acceptable ever we will just go with fascism forever always as they do state-sponsored anti trans propaganda I suppose. Enjoy being sent to camps under fascism and not receiving gender affirming care instead of not being able to play in sports for the same gender. Both sides ig. Most mainstream democrats have stated explicit support for trans people, it’s just not enough apparently.