It’s not though. All the major cities have cultural hubs and communities where migrants can find their place amongst their brethren. It used to be one of our strengths.
Compare that to Germany where even the Turks and Italians who have lived there for generations are still seen as oddities to be frowned on.
This is one of the mainstream media’s favourite pieces of propaganda. “we’re a soft touch, that’s why migrants come here!” it’s just completely transparently wrong, the reason migrants come here over other countries is because there used to be a British Empire that colonized half the world and as a result lots of people speak far better English than they do German or Swedish. Most of the countries people migrate from we had some hand in destabilizing too.
Do you remember after 9/11 and 7/7 how Indian and Pakistani (and frankly, any non-white) people living in Britain were treated? That attitude went away for a while, but came back with a vengeance. In many places around the UK, people of colour face really severe discrimination. I don’t live in Germany, so I can’t say which is worse, but I imagine both are pretty bad tbh
I was there for the 7/7, and have to admit, did not notice any particular shift in attitude towards indians/pakistanis. Maybe I was too young and just not looking, but I felt that the media largely shifted the blame to the actions of a few extremists instead of a culture as a whole.
I remember the rhetoric around 9/11 being about culture, and saw the effects of that in the US but not so much in the UK. Again, maybe I wasn’t really looking, but I also feel that the media was just a bit more rational back then.
I’m also not denying that people of non-white backgrounds face discrimination, as I’ve felt it myself. I just felt it way waay more in Germany.
Oh, actually, this isn’t true, usually it’s because they speak English. The UK is quite a nasty place for immigrants.
Is it much worse than the rest of Europe? Basically every european country seems to have a populist right wing anti immigration movement
It’s not though. All the major cities have cultural hubs and communities where migrants can find their place amongst their brethren. It used to be one of our strengths.
Compare that to Germany where even the Turks and Italians who have lived there for generations are still seen as oddities to be frowned on.
The UK pretty consistently scores low compared to other emigration destination countries, and Germany consistently scores higher, actually.
This is one of the mainstream media’s favourite pieces of propaganda. “we’re a soft touch, that’s why migrants come here!” it’s just completely transparently wrong, the reason migrants come here over other countries is because there used to be a British Empire that colonized half the world and as a result lots of people speak far better English than they do German or Swedish. Most of the countries people migrate from we had some hand in destabilizing too.
I don’t know what to say other than the anecdote I gave above after living in Germany for a decade
Do you remember after 9/11 and 7/7 how Indian and Pakistani (and frankly, any non-white) people living in Britain were treated? That attitude went away for a while, but came back with a vengeance. In many places around the UK, people of colour face really severe discrimination. I don’t live in Germany, so I can’t say which is worse, but I imagine both are pretty bad tbh
I was there for the 7/7, and have to admit, did not notice any particular shift in attitude towards indians/pakistanis. Maybe I was too young and just not looking, but I felt that the media largely shifted the blame to the actions of a few extremists instead of a culture as a whole.
I remember the rhetoric around 9/11 being about culture, and saw the effects of that in the US but not so much in the UK. Again, maybe I wasn’t really looking, but I also feel that the media was just a bit more rational back then.
I’m also not denying that people of non-white backgrounds face discrimination, as I’ve felt it myself. I just felt it way waay more in Germany.