• bearboiblake@pawb.social
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    Her bitterness about it stems from the fact that many of the families doing it aren’t that integrated into society.

    Can you clarify what you mean by this?

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      She’s seeing people who have paid taxes here not reaping the benefits of the social welfare they have paid into, whilst dealing with the disconnect of seeing others who seem to be dodging taxes altogether reaping more benefits.

      It’s a hard pill for her to swallow, as someone who always did things by the books.

      I’ve told her native billionaries operate under the same modus operandi at a far larger scale, but that does little to assay her bitterness. The rich was always gonna rich. The working poor used to be a bit more level I suppose is what she’s thinking

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        I’m picking up a vibe that their ethnicity might be something she mentions, am I right? Not being accusatory or anything here, just trying to have an honest conversation.

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          She mentions their level of english, not their ethnicity. I think for her its more the contrast of how savvy they are navigating the system despite their seeming inability to converse with it

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            Does she spot problematic patterns more among people who have poor English than those who have fluent English? I’m sure your mum is lovely, really I do not mean any disrespect, but I really suspect that subconscious bias may be playing a major role, here - it’s easy for out-groups to stand out and to see a pattern which isn’t really there - it’s just how our brains function.

            In the full interests of fairness, I also do know that some people who speak ESL do sometimes weaponize their issues with English if they think it could benefit them, e.g. pretending not to understand something they actually do. In their defense I would probably do the same thing if I could get away with it tbh

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              She definitely spots more problems in migrant families than native ones because the native ones have better support networks (family/grandparents, etc) to fall back on in hard times. These factors readily confound hand-in-hand.

              In terms of her own prejudice, she herself came to the UK as a migrant in the 80s from a third world country and more than understands their plight as well as their mindset.