In a completely unsurprising turn of events, Meta’s Muse AI is stealing Apple Messages, past and present, and uploading the contents to its cloud, even if explicitly told not to.

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    21 hours ago

    Just an FYI for anyone that didn’t know, your iMessages on your computer are literally just stored in a SQLite db. They’re very very easy to read without the app.

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      16 hours ago

      Source? AFAIK iMessages are stored encrypted by the Secure Enclave and can only be read through the same process that Touch ID works through. That’s why they can’t do iMessage through a browser because there must be a Secure Enclave present on the device. Pretty much the same reason Graphene OS only works on some devices.

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        14 hours ago

        Me? I wrote an app to read my iMessage database to pull two factor codes out and type them in automatically cause I was lazy.

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              13 hours ago

              This is describing the ability to read the messages from the actively booted and decrypted partition. This would absolutely not work without being able to log onto the machine. So while you are technically correct you are leaving out the caveat that this only works when you can also access the app not strictly without the app.

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                11 hours ago

                But the context is, that Meta’s software can extract them. For the software to run the system must be booted and the partition is likely already decrypted. So we’re exactly in this state.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Yes but the comment I was replying to implied that it could be done not in that state hence my question.

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                    6 minutes ago

                    Huh? I did not imply that at all. If your hard drive is encrypted the state of anything on that drive doesn’t matter at all. You’ve completely made up a scenario in your head about what I was talking about.

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      17 hours ago

      Is Android any better in this regard?

      Not whatabouting, generally ignorant and curious.

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        14 hours ago

        I don’t think Android has a corresponding computer operating system so no? This doesn’t apply to iPhones or iPads. Just Macs. And I’m not even sure if it applies to M series MacBooks, but it applied to the old intel ones about 5 years ago at least which was the last time I read my messages that way.