They need to accept something every other group of people realized long ago: when assholes steal your word, you need a new word, otherwise you’ll be associated with assholes.
Ok? But you also think the swastika argument is ridiculous? You can’t have it both ways. Don’t give those Nazis so much leverage, rock that swastika loud and proud!
You’d have a point if all the other examples you gesture to were also colonizing within the borders of other nations, the Kurds were explicitly screwed over by Sykes-Picot to purposefully set up the middle east for maximum civil unrest following the fall of the ottoman empire, likewise with Palestine, and Tibet is being invaded by Chinese colonists.
All other examples you’ve listed don’t have a bunch of pasty white New Yorker saying “my ancestors lived here 3000 years ago” and kicking people out of their homes half a globe away.
There’s already people everywhere, they can’t just designate some patch of land and say “Jews only!” without either physically removing or exterminating the people already living there.
Jewish people have lived in the levante for literal centuries and were displaced as well. In recent history the part of land which is now Israel was under British mandate for the longest time. I don’t want to say that Palestinians have no right to claim that land but Jewish people have at least an equivalent right to claim the same land. That’s basically the whole conflict. Therefore we need a two state solution or a one state solution in the sense that Palestinians and Jewish people can peacefully live together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel
The Muslims and Christians that live in Palestine are mostly descended from the Jews that lived in the Levant, it’s not like literally everyone was expelled. There’s a reason Israel doesn’t require a DNA test to determine if someone is actually descended from people from the Levant, there’s a reason Israel has some of the highest skin cancer rates in the world (on par with other white settler colonies like Australia), and there’s a reason they pretended Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land.”
They’re white colonizers stealing land. They don’t have any right to take it, they can either become Palestinian or go back to Europe.
There were people there, and they have a right to the land. Europeans can move there and join a single multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-religious democracy where Jews live with everyone else. They don’t need to steal land from people already living there, they don’t get to make a nation where Jews have special rights and everyone else is second class, they don’t get to have apartheid.
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What’s about the Jewish people that have a desire to create a Jewish state that’s not colonial and/or genocidal? Because those are Zionists too.
They need to accept something every other group of people realized long ago: when assholes steal your word, you need a new word, otherwise you’ll be associated with assholes.
That’s giving a lot of leverage to assholes.
Ok? But you also think the swastika argument is ridiculous? You can’t have it both ways. Don’t give those Nazis so much leverage, rock that swastika loud and proud!
Anyone who wants to create an ethnostate is de facto bigoted.
So Palestinians too? Or Kurds? What’s with Tibetans?
You’d have a point if all the other examples you gesture to were also colonizing within the borders of other nations, the Kurds were explicitly screwed over by Sykes-Picot to purposefully set up the middle east for maximum civil unrest following the fall of the ottoman empire, likewise with Palestine, and Tibet is being invaded by Chinese colonists.
All other examples you’ve listed don’t have a bunch of pasty white New Yorker saying “my ancestors lived here 3000 years ago” and kicking people out of their homes half a globe away.
You’re really telling on yourself by putting all 4 of these situations in the category of ethnostate.
Well how do you define the term “Ethnostate” and what do you think the Palestinian cause is in contrast to that?
The Palestinian “cause”? Why don’t you start by sharing your idea of what that is?
Where? Mars?
There’s already people everywhere, they can’t just designate some patch of land and say “Jews only!” without either physically removing or exterminating the people already living there.
Jewish people have lived in the levante for literal centuries and were displaced as well. In recent history the part of land which is now Israel was under British mandate for the longest time. I don’t want to say that Palestinians have no right to claim that land but Jewish people have at least an equivalent right to claim the same land. That’s basically the whole conflict. Therefore we need a two state solution or a one state solution in the sense that Palestinians and Jewish people can peacefully live together. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel
The Muslims and Christians that live in Palestine are mostly descended from the Jews that lived in the Levant, it’s not like literally everyone was expelled. There’s a reason Israel doesn’t require a DNA test to determine if someone is actually descended from people from the Levant, there’s a reason Israel has some of the highest skin cancer rates in the world (on par with other white settler colonies like Australia), and there’s a reason they pretended Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land.”
They’re white colonizers stealing land. They don’t have any right to take it, they can either become Palestinian or go back to Europe.
There were people there, and they have a right to the land. Europeans can move there and join a single multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-religious democracy where Jews live with everyone else. They don’t need to steal land from people already living there, they don’t get to make a nation where Jews have special rights and everyone else is second class, they don’t get to have apartheid.