• bloor@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    I can answer your second question: Upper and Lower have nothing to do with drawing on a northed map, but rather with the geography of the land. The Alps start to fade out and thus get lower the more you go west in Austria so Lower Austria is physically lower than Upper Austria. Same thing in Bavaria: The Southern part is called Oberbayern (Upper Bavaria) whereas the northern part is Niederbayern (Lower Bavaria).

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      20 hours ago

      I think it refers to their location in relation to the river Enns. Upper Austira was called “ob der Enns”, Lower Austria was called “nied der Enns” in the middle ages.

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        13 hours ago

        Well, rivers usually flow from higher to lower points, so the explanation is still somewhat correct ;) but to be fair, that’s more the reasoning I found for myself, tieing it to rivers makes more sense in a historical context.

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          4 hours ago

          I didn’t mean to correct you, just adding some context.

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          The river Enns goes from south from the mountains to north and flows into Danube. Upper Austria is on the west of river Enns and Lower Austria on the east. Danube goes trough both. North of Danube is a plateau which makes it (in the plateau area) hard to say Lower Austria is lower. But if you compare two cities on the boarder between Upper and Lower, the one in Lower Austria is 10m lower. Which makes sense, since the Danube flows in this direction. So again, I am not trying to correct you.