• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    13 days ago

    You’re less likely to die in a car than on a bike.

    Also motorcycles are off the chart.

    Actually safety is just “how likely you are to be killed by a car” isn’t it?

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      13 days ago

      A fair amount of motorcyclists manage to do themselves in on their own, but based on the shit I’ve heard from riders about near misses I’d bet it’s more car induced than anything.

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        13 days ago

        Generally there’s a Dunning-Kruger effect that kills motorcyclists (same for pilots) in the first year or two, or some close calls scare them off motorbikes. Old / experienced motorcyclists are so hyperaware that they do pretty well.

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            12 days ago

            That’s why I haven’t kept one. Too tiring for anything more than very short rides. I’d rather ride my bicycle on rail trails and safe® lanes.

      • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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        13 days ago

        Yeah, alcohol is involved in ~1/3 of US motorcycle accidents. Americans are uniquely dangerous to themselves in motorcycles compared to other countries.

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          13 days ago

          A year ago I learned that in my state most motorcycle crashes are single party (meaning there was no other vehicle/pedestrian involved), and of those, most motorcyclists were under the influence (drunk or drowsy). Still the most dangerous mode of transportation any way you cut it, but that particular mode of transportation happens to be really attractive to knobheads, just being a responsible rider will improve your odds on the road by leaps and bounds.

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        12 days ago

        As someone living in 1:1 car/motor ratio place, i can’t say the percentage of it, but i can say a huge amount of it is caused by reckless motorcyclist. Some people should only be allowed to take public transport.

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      12 days ago

      Actually safety is just “how likely you are to be killed by a car” isn’t it?

      Wonder how this transfers to a plane 👀

      • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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        12 days ago

        Well the best way to not get killed by a car is to be 40,000 feet away. The next safest way is to be a fucking train.