Former Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH), who is also the current Democratic Senate candidate for Ohio, found himself in hot water in a past campaign over his response to anti-trans attacks from Republicans, and now he appears to be taking a different approach.
Instead of trying to defend or explain his views on trans rights, Brown released an ad last week slamming Republicans for focusing on trans people at all, when there are so many bigger challenges facing the state.
Sorry I simply will not vote for someone who supports genocide that’s utterly insane.
Won’t do it for president and sure as shit won’t do it for a senator.
Some lines we cannot cross. I will not capitulate to this liberal framing on this - you simply cannot claim to be progressive in any way if you are ok with the wanton slaughter of innocents by an illegal state with no right to exist.
I can’t help this situation in any way if I’m struggling because transphobes make it difficult for me to exist. Your pool of allies against Israel decreases because I’m too busy trying to survive.
There are other ways to protect and aid LGBTQ community members that are much more effective than voting for people who will throw you under the bus at a moments notice.
There’s a reason a lot of us trans people are moving to blue states. The Democrats aren’t trustworthy but staying in a red state is hell. It still makes a difference so spare the bullshit. Not voting is helping Republicans more than it’s helping trans people.
If someone is going to support genocide on Palestinians they will also support the genocide of trans people. The LGBTQ community especially cannot rely on the state to protect them and must build that within their communities (of which I am very involved locally to make happen) but I’m sure you understand this well.
Completely missed the point of what I said. There’s still a massive difference between the Republicans and Democrats. This isn’t about local communities. Don’t both sides this.
The difference is far less than you make it out to be.
Did you . . . did you really just tell a trans person with lived experience that they don’t know the political landscape they are physically having to move to escape? Someone paraquat your weed?
This is the epitome of bad faith argument. Blocked.
Tell me what you learned from the 2024 presidential election.
That our candidates are all bought and sold by the same interests and while we pretend just voting solves anything that we are letting them take us for a ride through and through. What did you learn?
Both Harris and Trump basically ran on the same platform. I voted but not for either of them.
I learned that a significant majority of the US voting population will torch the country if the candidates in our inherently flawed voting system are not good enough for their moral or ethical standards. Status quo vs driving the country off a cliff are not the same thing.
Yeah and it doesn’t help that thousands of not millions of shills canvas the Internet with misinformation intended to help Republicans.
The status quo of genocide and endless war in the name of empire? The status quo of silencing dissent in society? The status quo of attacking minorities? Do you think all of this is only supported by the Republicans because I’ve got news for you bucko.
Do you honestly think that if harris had one, ice would be going around the country and detaining immigrants and putting them in concentration camps?
Harris was in favor of massive expansion in border patrol and deportation. I think liberals like yourself would be more inclined to look the other way like you have for decades as the Democrats have expanded the already expansive powers of ICE and border patrol.
Or do we forget who created ICE to begin with?
I think you “forgot”. Because it was Bush. Not a Democrat, which you intend to lie people into believing created it.
Democrats voted for it in the house and senate
You’re right but it was Obama who expanded their powers massively under his presidency and functionally made them what they are today. Primed for abuse by any president.
Yes that was the status quo. And now we have the status quo times 1000 worse. Democrats have not been shocked into compliance either. A systemic overhaul is required and it’s bigger than one person.
I’m not disagreeing that genocide is bad but the other guy probably supports Israel as well since they’re Republican. It’s your right to not vote but anyone else reading and not voting is the same as supporting the other person by allowing them to be voted in. By not picking a side, you’re picking a side and giving the other side a free pass. You’re basically saying that you are ok if the opposition who supports Israel gets elected because you didn’t use your vote to cancel out a vote. Either way you’re supporting Israel.
The choice here is to vote for a candidate that supports Israel and the rights of Americans or someone that supports Israel and opposes American rights or not vote and let someone else decide for you. You can wait for your perfect candidate while the opposition votes in theirs. It’s your right.
This “not voting supports the other side” argument goes both ways.
If either way my vote supports Israel then I suppose my choice never really mattered to begin with. If you support Israel you will go back on any claim you make supporting Americans.
Nope. If both candidates are Israel supporters then no matter what Israel will be supported regardless of how you vote. What you are saying is that the person sitting next to you doesn’t deserve rights because you failed to vote against the opposition because the Democrat candidate isn’t perfect. I’m not excusing the Dem candidate for supporting Israel but I’m saying that all Americans should enjoy the same rights and the voters options are limited. You disagree and that’s your right, but I hope that you aren’t going around advocating for human rights while also strengthening the position of those that would take those rights away. This is a fight won in inches not miles.
this is bad faith
The irony of claiming human rights while voting for those doing genocide and silencing those who speak out is rich. Thanks for the laugh I needed that this morning.
The irony of being a fascist and doing their dirty work for them. No thanks for your support of fascism.
Im not the lib voting for genocide but say whatever you gotta to sleep at night ;)
Correct. You are a fascist supporter throwing your weight behind the fascists.
When are you revolting?
No, this is more ironic.
I get it, but that’s not how elections under FPTP works. If you want to be single issue about this, you have to vote for a candidate aligned with your choice on this. If such a candidate doesn’t exist, you have to vote for the least repugnant one.
If you don’t vote, you’re cosigning whatever choice everyone else makes. You not voting isn’t telling anyone that they didn’t get your vote, it’s telling everyone that you didn’t care about the outcome of that election.
Many population overthrow their dictatorship and risked being kidnapped, tortured, starved and killed but you idiots have fair elections and still making excuses to vote for murderers and terrorists
“Fair elections” where both sides deliberately work to disenfranchise anyone who would challenge the structural violence both live and die by
Bullshit.
Thanks for the fascist propaganda. I’ll pass.
gl @ deathcamps!🫡
Nice counter point
It countered every piece of evidence you posted…oh wait there was none
It may change now with Trump but there is no systematic state intimidation for not voting for the “right” person in the USA unlike in dictatorships
If you think our elections captured by two parties that operate in lock step at the whims of the rich and their corporations are fair then I’m not sure what to tell you. There is no room for any 3rd party to truly have representation and that is systemic suppression by the state.
You do not have a choice in your elections. Both sides hate you and will work against your interests because neither of them is materially beholden to you in any way
Money buy exposure not votes. People are still responsible for their votes , nobody is forced to vote for people serving the rich and there is no systematic state intimidation that make you fear choosing the moral decision.
People are propagandized with lies money absolutely buys votes especially when there is no belief in an alternative
There is no excuse for falling for propaganda in an era when information is so easily accessible. With some research and critical thinking people won’t fall for it.
I don’t have to do anything when the options are genocide, war, racism, and support for empire on both sides.
I voted 3rd party in the last election because there was no one who remotely represented me elsewhere. I think it says much more about you that you could hold your nose and vote for that than me or the millions who did what I did.
If you think things would be drastically different if the election went the other way you have a poor understanding of the dynamics at play here and how all sides are ruled by capital and its whims.
You voted third-party. Good. Infinitely better than not voting
Only if someone is ignorant of how the US political system is set up.
A vote for a third party is currently a vote for the side you hate worse.
And for anyone who does BoTh sIdEs: Educate yourself because ignorance supports fascism, and fascism supports ignorance.
Then destroy the system.
If the system causes you to genocide,
genocide the system itself.
They said they’re single issue, this is their single issue. If the choice is no vote or vote for third party, voting for third party says something more than not voting. Do I vote harm reduction? Yes. Am I going to argue a person out of voting rather than voting for a third-party? No. Do I think I can change this person’s mind to agree to vote harm reduction? No, and if you’re being honest you know you can’t either. We do what we can. Optimal strategy and the best strategy for an individual don’t need to be the same thing all of the time.
If every person who was going to not vote voted third party instead, things would change for the better.
no, it’s a vote against both of them
And yet, fascists appreciate the support.
it’s not supporting fascism
Yeah, I wont either. But I do not live there, so no worries
Well I do…though if you live in the US I don’t think any of us should be supporting any of these cretins and we should be vocally speaking out about all of them. Not just the ones that effect us directly.
The only way to change the tide is to continue to pressure the ones who claim to represent our interests to bend to our will as they are supposed to.
No shit. One can’t take the “lesser of two evils” approach by accepting the greatest of all evils.
So you’re advocating for voting for and condoning an evil government/country?
How did you get that? Precisely the opposite. I’m saying lesser of two evils doesn’t fly when the people one “holds their nose” to vote for support a genocidal terrorist state.
My bad, I misunderstood. I totally agree, fuck these genocidal liberals.