Brian Leeland, a 79-year-old Democratic voter in Detroit, had enough. Frustrated by the way the US media covers this febrile political era, from Donald Trump’s Washington to political campaigns across the country, he contacted the Guardian.

“Your decision to frame the race here as a simple progressive versus establishment choice is overly simplistic verging on lazy,” he wrote to this reporter, after our coverage of progressive Abdul El-Sayed’s campaign in the Democratic US Senate primary in Michigan. “As an electorate, we are not binary for the convenience of the media.”

His was a complaint I heard often as I traveled across the midwest to cover a host of contested Democratic primaries. So I called him up.

Leeland’s list of frustrations is long: grifters, liars, the two-party system, money influencing elections, the US’s standing in the world, the growing national debt and a fixation on cultural issues, not just the larger problems that plague the country.

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    Yeah, realising your entire lineage’s lifelong earnings for generations amounts to sofa change to megalomaniacs who are also making sure your grandchildren will suffer even more than you are now is bound to make one testy.

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    When will they will figure out bOtH pArTiEs are “The Establishment”? Don’t hold your breath!

    I vote, and you should, too. They are not the same. One party is “pro-LGBT” and the other is “pro-church” and they are bOtH pro-corporate, pro-billionaire, pro-war, anti-union and so on.

    The differences are the bait. The commonalities are the establishment.

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      Not everyone, that’s why establishment Democrats are fighting progressives in their own party harder than they are fighting Republicans. We need to vote in the progressives to actually represent us.

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    Yes, most Americans are very upset with the establishment. They just can’t agree on who the establishment is.

    Obviously Trump is currently the establishment since he’s the one in power right now, but the irony is a lot of the people who voted for him did so because they were angry with the establishment that preceded him. So, many Americans are angry at an establishment that was meant to take on a past establishment that many other Americans had been angry with.

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      Obviously Trump is currently the establishment since he’s the one in power right now, …

      Trump and maga are not the establishment. They are extreme radicals with a completely different agenda than the establishment. Their agenda is to do away with the Constitution and replace it with an authoritarian regime centered on christian nationalism and fascism–of that’s not radical, what is? The fact that they managed to take over the government doesn’t make them “the establishment” unless you accept that they will maintain power and thus become a new “establishment”.

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      It’s establishments all the way down. And what do they all have in common? Being servile to capital.

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    79 years old.

    Leeland’s list of frustrations is long: grifters, liars, the two-party system, money influencing elections, the US’s standing in the world, the growing national debt and a fixation on cultural issues, not just the larger problems that plague the country.

    Come gather ‘round people Wherever you roam And admit that the waters Around you have grown And accept it that soon You’ll be drenched to the bone If your time to you is worth savin’ Then you better start swimmin’ Or you’ll sink like a stone For the times they are a-changin’

    Come writers and critics Who prophesize with your pen And keep your eyes wide The chance won’t come again And don’t speak too soon For the wheel’s still in spin And there’s no tellin’ who that it’s namin’ For the loser now Will be later to win For the times they are a-changin’

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    Every two or four year the socials are ablaze with the blue wave stuff. And every year it turns out to be a nothing burger.

    Reddit, lemmy and other social media are piss poor ways of judging election out comes. Too much of an echo chamber.

    And nothing I’ve seen or heard locally is changing maga into democrats. They are still 100% behind the great orange beast.

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      And every year it turns out to be a nothing burger.

      Wait, what? We had a massive blue wave in '18 and '20.

      And nothing I’ve seen or heard locally is changing maga into democrats.

      More whether they decide to show up or not.

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          You’re ignoring that Congress people often resign before they can lose. You always get a wave of resignations preceding a wave year. Politicians see the writing on the wall and quit so they don’t have to suffer the career setback of losing a race. If you think you’re likely to lose, you’re better off resigning before the election to “focus on your family.” Then a few years later, if the political winds shift again, you can run again without the smell of a loser on you.

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          The 2020 presidential election enjoyed the highest turnout rate for any national election since 1900. Democrats turnout out 8% more voters than Republicans overall. But, obviously, this matters less in a segmented wta election system.

          Nevertheless, this was historic Dem turnout.

          It was also historic GOP turnout.

          Had either flagged, it would have been a landslide for the other party.

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        I also don’t like the framing of this being just trump and not the whole republican party and AIPAC dems

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      Exactly, I’ll believe it when I see it, Americans need to feel a hell of a lot more pain before they’ll vote responsibly.