• Foni@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    Yesterday I read on mastodon that leaving Twitter to go to Bluesky is like quitting smoking to start vaping. Changing a centralized place that lives off your data for another one. Right now Bluesky does not have hate speech like Twitter just because it does not suit the current accounts of its shareholders

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      11 days ago

      I don’t know if hate speech will be able to flourish on Bluesky like on twitter simply because of the moderation tools.

      There’s already a giant blocklist of maga idiots who have tried to move over, and if you follow that list you’ll never see their posts. And the unwritten rule of the place is to block anyone who is trying to start stuff or that you simply don’t like. On twitter that felt taboo for some reason, but on Bluesky that’s normal - as it should be, really.

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        11 days ago

        I left Twitter years ago, but I think you could also block whoever you want, whether people do it more or less is independent of the site, the moderation tools are the same. 3

        What’s more, I am 100% sure that if in a few years Bluesky considers it economically beneficial for its shareholders that these tools “have occasional failures” this will happen without a doubt. This is something that if happens in Mastodon, changing the node you are done

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          11 days ago

          Bluesky also lets you unpin your quotes from others posts so no quote dunking and they have a nuclear block. If you’re blocked, you can’t see their posts anywhere in quotes or otherwise (excepting screenshots) and that interaction is broken completely even to third parties that may have neither blocked.

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          11 days ago

          Twitter didn’t have block lists. You could block people individually, but not as a group.

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            11 days ago

            Are these details really that important? Is it really that difficult to manually block 50-100 users? I don’t know, everything you are telling me are, at best, marginal improvements that do not justify selling all your personal data to a private company seeking profit from those data/contributions.

            CC @JaymesRS@literature.cafe

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      11 days ago

      I think we just need to adopt the 2000s mindset again of dropping a platform when it gets shit. No one gave a fuck about the loss of Digg and Myspace.

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        11 days ago

        I had a really good friend on MySpace that I lost touch with. I think he was a little paranoid, we didn’t speak much and he was always looking over his shoulder. His name was Tom.

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      11 days ago

      Hardly. The Fediverse spans multiple apps and services, and it existed before Elon bought Twitter and it will continue existing regardless of what the billionaires do, because it’s not run by just one person.

      The whole point is decentralization, not growth, so unless the billionaires can take out every server hosting an instance, the Fediverse isn’t going anywhere.

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      11 days ago

      The fediverse is considered ‘over’ when parasitic leeches like Musk and Spez come knocking on Lemmy’s and BlueSky’s doors like “we want growth…please sell to us”.